THE ESSENDON 34: ON TRIAL

[daisycutter 29,796]

I know the player in question is not supposed to be one of the 34, but maybe ASADA didn't go for him for some reason. Wouldn't it be interesting for a player in court to say to EFC you can't tell me what I was given, I demand compensation for your negligence causing me worry etc., and EFC might think the best course is to suddenly discover the records of what was administered.

you might be onto something sue

i seem to remember reading somewhere that the waiver was signed after the supplement program was started

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,950]

Excellent. Just reminding everyone they are watching closely and that weak bans wont be acceptable..

I'm not sure how you draw that conclusion from essentially neutral comments. Nothing stated is critical of either Essendon, the AFL, the AFL Tribunal, or ASADA. Just a bog-standard statement that WADA will see what happened and what could be done to improve things. And I wouldn't expect him to have said anything else.

[sue 9,151]

I'm not sure how you draw that conclusion from essentially neutral comments. Nothing stated is critical of either Essendon, the AFL, the AFL Tribunal, or ASADA. Just a bog-standard statement that WADA will see what happened and what could be done to improve things. And I wouldn't expect him to have said anything else.

Yes, but the significance is that he said it now.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,950]

Yes, but the significance is that he said it now.

I'm not sure about that. He may have said it now...because he was asked about it now.

Nevertheless, the assumption drawn by Hogans_Heroes may prove to be correct.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,099]

Former Essendon player plans to take legal action against AFL Bombers

Oh dear it has started.

Former Ess player to sue.

Beat me it to it:

The hun version: Player in legal action against the AFL and Essendon

That would have to be Kyle Reimers right? Isn't he the one who refused to sign and was sacked at the end of the year?

[sue 9,151]

Probably so they & their family don't get abused by mental Essendon fans that blindly back their club no matter what.

Sadly I think this is very likely to be the reason for anonymity. In every club there are probably enough crackpot supporters, but egged on by the victimisation line that the media and EFC have been pushing, such a supporter may well go over the edge and do anything from 'mere' harassment to something unpardonable.

[beelzebub 23,387]

I dont think essendon are travelling quite as good as they might think !!!

All starting to come apart......

[beelzebub 23,387]

Yes, but the significance is that he said it now.

very significant

also reads as....game on !!

[sue 9,151]

I'm not sure about that. He may have said it now...because he was asked about it now.

....

Normally I would agree with you, but I think he went a lot further than a standard statement of how WADA works. He could have said a lot less.

[beelzebub 23,387]

Normally I would agree with you, but I think he went a lot further than a standard statement of how WADA works. He could have said a lot less.

yep and in a marvelous display of timeliness he effectively said all this talk of team sports needing a different tact is just a lot of shlt . He put some on notice and others back in their box !!

[biggestred 5,193]

Apparently ch10 broadcast the name.

Idiotic.

[bing181 9,347]

Why does the AFL feel obliged in that article to vaguely imply that the WADA code may need adjustment and thus as it is may not be suitable for AFL. Apparently no other team sport has complained.

Nor has the AFL. Until one day, 34 players from the same team get hit with doping charges ...

The AFL has been a signatory to the WADA code for 10 years. During that time, there have been two reviews by WADA, with calls for submission. The AFL have submitted nothing.

[whatwhat say what 23,087]

Hal Hunter?

[biggestred 5,193]

Hal Hunter?

So says twitter

[M_9 2,107]

Sadly I think this is very likely to be the reason for anonymity. In every club there are probably enough crackpot supporters, but egged on by the victimisation line that the media and EFC have been pushing, such a supporter may well go over the edge and do anything from 'mere' harassment to something unpardonable.

There's a couple of dead-set nutters over at Bomber Blitz, led by one Ben Doolan. I'd certainly wouldn't want him following my every move.

[sue 9,151]

There's a couple of dead-set nutters over at Bomber Blitz, led by one Ben Doolan. I'd certainly wouldn't want him following my every move.

Well their mods aren't completely crazy, just closed the thread:

Ffs, you really think some of the crap posted in the last few hours is acceptable? Wishing death on people?

Thread locked until mods get a chance to clean it up.

[Cards13 9,117]

That would make me laugh.

But I too think Reimers is the man.

No Gorg the coach they mentioned as getting an notice.

[Cards13 9,117]

Other thing is I don't get why the player has gone now with a case. Just a really odd time being so close to the ASADA case out come.

[biggestred 5,193]

http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/kevin-sheedy-labels-the-afl-drug-scandal-treatment-of-essendon-sick-and-ridiculous/story-fndv8gad-1227276960183

No understanding whatsoever

[sue 9,151]

http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/afl/kevin-sheedy-labels-the-afl-drug-scandal-treatment-of-essendon-sick-and-ridiculous/story-fndv8gad-1227276960183

No understanding whatsoever

What does the old fool mean by a 'sting'. Surely hes not suggesting somebody tricked EFC into the experiment'?

[Cards13 9,117]

That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. Dons fans happy that that nutter is back at the club are as deluded as he is.

[Its Time for Another 4,298]

I'm not sure how you draw that conclusion from essentially neutral comments. Nothing stated is critical of either Essendon, the AFL, the AFL Tribunal, or ASADA. Just a bog-standard statement that WADA will see what happened and what could be done to improve things. And I wouldn't expect him to have said anything else.

I tend to lean to your explanation. Timing is probably due to being pushed for the interview and asked that specific question.

Sue I'm sure if WADA wanted to make a statement to the Tribunal they would have had many ways to do that well before now. It would be virtually too late to leave it to now.

I have absolutely no doubt they will review everything that went on in this case win or lose. I would hope they would want to make sure that in future the process is much much more quick than this fiasco. Plus I would say the discussions with the Aus Govt would be about changing the legislation so that in the future if there is positive evidence of a substance being taken, like there was here, that the onus will fall on the athletes to prove what they took. It is ridiculous that the onus is on ASADA to prove what drug the players took when they have no idea and the players are the ones via the Club who took the substances.

[daisycutter 29,796]

That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. Dons fans happy that that nutter is back at the club are as deluded as he is.

lol - i think essendrug must use IS based psychology methods to attract all the nutters - working well too

[biggestred 5,193]

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/depleted-dons--could-skew-year-for-other-teams-20150324-1m6rfp.html

[biggestred 5,193]

What does the old fool mean by a 'sting'. Surely hes not suggesting somebody tricked EFC into the experiment'?

Injections. Injections sting.