16 yes...15's a push

we will be pushing. Roos will, and when it starts to kick in, you can be sure the players will burst their way up, with great enthusiasm, out of the past few years.

It's been a while coming, but coming it is; and in my view it will take some stopping when it breaks out.

So, more interesting than the when, for me, will be seeing the how.

But as to next year, I am hoping to be seeing the phoenix rise, in a triumph such as we have not seen in the AFL for some time.

we will be pushing. Roos will, and when it starts to kick in, you can be sure the players will burst their way up, with great enthusiasm, out of the past few years.

It's been a while coming, but coming it is; and in my view it will take some stopping when it breaks out.

So, more interesting than the when, for me, will be seeing the how.

But as to next year, I am hoping to be seeing the phoenix rise, in a triumph such as we have not seen in the AFL for some time.

I agree we'll be pushing...ive predicted we'll go 9th i just think we might after some serious exertions run out of legs a little bit by the back end of the season.

then , another preseason, better/bigger tanks and into the 8

Ingredients for turnaround didn't seem to backwards over the draft period. I like the idea of the linkages of players, orchestrated or not. Brothers McDonald, Glenelg coupling, Petracca/Brayshaw and Lamumba/Dawes as fellow premiership players. You would reckon it will build a group that are prepared to really go to battle together. Think Roos gets this. Seems to me, very Sydney like.

Ingredients for turnaround didn't seem to backwards over the draft period. I like the idea of the linkages of players, orchestrated or not. Brothers McDonald, Glenelg coupling, Petracca/Brayshaw and Lamumba/Dawes as fellow premiership players. You would reckon it will build a group that are prepared to really go to battle together. Think Roos gets this. Seems to me, very Sydney like.

From a disenchanted rabble to a close-knit band who WILL go in for each other and PLAY for each other.

This portends a quantum change

From a disenchanted rabble to a close-knit band who WILL go in for each other and PLAY for each other.

This portends a quantum change

Christ even a hard head like you bb getting caught up in the post draft enthusiasm - settle down. Return to reality now before it guts you in 2015.

Portends? Ease up BB. Had to scramble for the dictionary. Very educational site this.

Christ even a hard head like you bb getting caught up in the post draft enthusiasm - settle down. Return to reality now before it guts you in 2015.

ah but which reality BBO....there might well be a new one...have you considered that ??

we will be pushing. Roos will, and when it starts to kick in, you can be sure the players will burst their way up, with great enthusiasm, out of the past few years.

It's been a while coming, but coming it is; and in my view it will take some stopping when it breaks out.

So, more interesting than the when, for me, will be seeing the how.

But as to next year, I am hoping to be seeing the phoenix rise, in a triumph such as we have not seen in the AFL for some time.

We need an early hard fought win/wins for the belief and momentum to kick in.

Once we learn to win and they back themselves we will surprise quite a few teams and shut their supporters up too!

Hawks, Swans, Port adel & Geelong... top4

Next ... Kangas , Freo, Tigers and Suns.

Next... pies, Bombers, Eagles, Crows

Bottom 6 ... Lions, Blues, Dogs, Dees, Giants, Saints.

15th for me. Above Blues, Dogs and Saints.

Aim is 6-7 wins. Realistic given we lost the last 10 games and two of our wins in 2014 were less than a goal.

9 wins 13 losses

Finish: 13th

Pecentage: 85-90

60 or more points wins: 2

60 or more points losses: 0

List turnover at end of season: less than six

Edited November 28, 201410 yr by flamindees

Bottom 4-6 in 2015.

But I think we'll see significant improvement in 2016.

I see players like Toumpas, Salem and Viney really finding their feet next year.
We'll see glimpses of the brilliance from Petracca and solid efforts from Brayshaw.
But in 2016 it will all come together - and we'll be charging into the 8.

I'm banking on us landing a name at the end of next year, there is no doubt MFC will be a desired destination.
Without being overly bias, we now have one of the best young lists in the league.

ah but which reality BBO....there might well be a new one...have you considered that ??

I'll consider that in about July 2015 bb!!

I'll consider that in about July 2015 bb!!

wuss

We've shipped out a truck load of mediocrity sans one who occasionally and once was good for a "coach" load of actual footbalers.

Approx ONE QUARTER of the list has churned in our favour....we've actually got about 33% more ability without stepping onto the field yet.

There is just NO WAY we can be the same team. The synergy of better and MORE able bodied mids together with folk at the sharp end who can do SOMETHING !!! MUST...must make a big difference. When you consider elections and how shifts are affected by not a lot then its the same with a team..Once the balance shifts into our favour....things WILL happen.

Edited November 28, 201410 yr by beelzebub

I'll consider that in about July 2015 bb!!

A man of obvious intellect!

6-8 wins, finals a possibility next year.

Lots of variables in that, though I do feel, with the positive steps that have been taken off the field (coaching, development), and the quality of the players coming in, sooner or later it's going to start to turn.

We are $12 for top 8. Pretty good value. Suns a great bet at $2.20, easy money!

9 wins 13 losses

Finish: 13th

Pecentage: 85-90

60 or more points wins: 2

60 or more points losses: 0

List turnover at end of season: less than six

My assessment as well,mfornthe what it's worth. (Very little)

I think we will kick about three more goals a game with a fitter Dawes, JKH & Gawn as well as the addition of Jeffy, Hoges and the returning Howe.

Also with an improving backline and an improving midfield we should be able to save one or two goals a game.

Should get us 10-14th spot and have us shaking a few top teams.

I cant see us passing GWS, Suns or the dogs unfortunately as they have some wonderful kids also who are all improving as well. Brisbane could push for the 8 as well.

Saints and blues will be down below us but not sure who else

Got to love the off season, we all put such high expectations on our season only to be slapped in the face with reality at half time of round one.

Until we have a stable list we will not get out of the bottom 4.

Edited November 28, 201410 yr by ILLDieADemon

If Hogan stays healthy- 12th.

If not- 16th

Wherever 7 or 8 wins lands us.

Solid spine, handy-but-not-quite-there-yet mids, and some good kids getting experience we'll look better than 2014, but still a fair way off the pace.

What I'd really like to see is players like Jamar, Garland, Vince, Harry O, Dawes, and dare I say Grimes etc start to get pushed out of the side, not because they aren't good enough but because there is someone better to choose. But that's a fair way off yet.

For what its worth I think the biggest impact will stem from off the ground generation. Before the draft even happened the non playing personnel that has been collected is going to have a seismic effect on the mental approach that this Team should have collectively developed and will make those goose bumps and hairs stand up when they are on the ground in the guts.

One such occasion for me was watching a young almost undiscovered Simon Eishold play a cracking game in a final I think in the late 80's

This is a mental game now more than ever and if we look close enough come the practice matches I'm thinking and hoping even then we will be able to feel it.

I hope that next year is not too early.

My prediction....just wanna feel the hairs and the goose bumps again.

You'll know.

Wherever 7 or 8 wins lands us.

Solid spine, handy-but-not-quite-there-yet mids, and some good kids getting experience we'll look better than 2014, but still a fair way off the pace.

What I'd really like to see is players like Jamar, Garland, Vince, Harry O, Dawes, and dare I say Grimes etc start to get pushed out of the side, not because they aren't good enough but because there is someone better to choose. But that's a fair way off yet.

Can't see Vince ever getting pushed out. Didn't he lead the league for metres gained this season? He'll be best 22 til he retires.