Drafting v Trading and Free Agency

[Its Time for Another 4,054]

Found some interesting Champion Data stat's on number of games players play who were drafted.

Obviously after the Bailey era we now know through painful experience that going to the draft isn't the holy grail. And from the Neeld era we learnt that trading in hacks past their use by date for leadership isn't the answer either. Looks like we are starting to get the blend right.

We all bemoan the D's draft performance but how many know that Geelong and Hawthorn have the worst figure, 40%, for players never to have played a game.

Here's some other interesting Champion Data draft facts on all 2179 players drafted since 1986.

* 710 (or 32.5%) have never played a single game.
* 932 (or 42.8%) have played between 1 and 49 games. So more than three-quarters of all draftees (75.3%) have not reached the milestone of 50 AFL games.
* 292 (or 13.4%) have played more than 100 games; and
* Only 74 (or 3.3%) reach the 200-game milestone.

I wonder going forward, what impact free agency is going to have on the number of players being drafted. This year is going to be almost a record low. At this point, now that Newton has been picked up the D's only have to live draft picks, 2 & 3 and are using 42 for Stretch and probably 40 for upgrading Jetta unless they delist a contracted player to use pick 40 in the draft. I expect this to happen.

[InVINCEable 358]

Found some interesting Champion Data stat's on number of games players play who were drafted.

Obviously after the Bailey era we now know through painful experience that going to the draft isn't the holy grail. And from the Neeld era we learnt that trading in hacks past their use by date for leadership isn't the answer either. Looks like we are starting to get the blend right.

We all bemoan the D's draft performance but how many know that Geelong and Hawthorn have the worst figure, 40%, for players never to have played a game.

Here's some other interesting Champion Data draft facts on all 2179 players drafted since 1986.

* 710 (or 32.5%) have never played a single game.

* 932 (or 42.8%) have played between 1 and 49 games. So more than three-quarters of all draftees (75.3%) have not reached the milestone of 50 AFL games.

* 292 (or 13.4%) have played more than 100 games; and

* Only 74 (or 3.3%) reach the 200-game milestone.

I wonder going forward, what impact free agency is going to have on the number of players being drafted. This year is going to be almost a record low. At this point, now that Newton has been picked up the D's only have to live draft picks, 2 & 3 and are using 42 for Stretch and probably 40 for upgrading Jetta unless they delist a contracted player to use pick 40 in the draft. I expect this to happen.

Wow...

[Deecisive 1,658]

hmmm not being able to get into two of the best sides to play does not necessarily mean poor drafting, it can also mean the competition for the spots they play in was intense and that they may may need to do years of development before they get a go. With the Dees and other bottom feeders its more a matter of trying everyone they can at some stage to see if they can improve their performance, hence we may be playing players earlier than we wish.

[Akum 2,660]

Found some interesting Champion Data stat's on number of games players play who were drafted.

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We all bemoan the D's draft performance but how many know that Geelong and Hawthorn have the worst figure, 40%, for players never to have played a game.

Here's some other interesting Champion Data draft facts on all 2179 players drafted since 1986.

* 710 (or 32.5%) have never played a single game.

* 932 (or 42.8%) have played between 1 and 49 games. So more than three-quarters of all draftees (75.3%) have not reached the milestone of 50 AFL games.

* 292 (or 13.4%) have played more than 100 games; and

* Only 74 (or 3.3%) reach the 200-game milestone.

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Great work Gough!

The part I've bolded would suggest that it's not how many you stuff up that's important, it's how many you nail.

[Its Time for Another 4,054]

hmmm not being able to get into two of the best sides to play does not necessarily mean poor drafting, it can also mean the competition for the spots they play in was intense and that they may may need to do years of development before they get a go. With the Dees and other bottom feeders its more a matter of trying everyone they can at some stage to see if they can improve their performance, hence we may be playing players earlier than we wish.

So what happens to that 40% then. Do they turn up at other teams? With a few exceptions, such as Joey Kennedy, who is the classic example of what you're saying, I'd say no.

[Bombay Airconditioning 5,943]

Taylor Walker just resigned for 3 years.

[jnrmac 19,131]

Found some interesting Champion Data stat's on number of games players play who were drafted.

Obviously after the Bailey era we now know through painful experience that going to the draft isn't the holy grail. And from the Neeld era we learnt that trading in hacks past their use by date for leadership isn't the answer either. Looks like we are starting to get the blend right.

We all bemoan the D's draft performance but how many know that Geelong and Hawthorn have the worst figure, 40%, for players never to have played a game.

Here's some other interesting Champion Data draft facts on all 2179 players drafted since 1986.

* 710 (or 32.5%) have never played a single game.

* 932 (or 42.8%) have played between 1 and 49 games. So more than three-quarters of all draftees (75.3%) have not reached the milestone of 50 AFL games.

* 292 (or 13.4%) have played more than 100 games; and

* Only 74 (or 3.3%) reach the 200-game milestone.

I wonder going forward, what impact free agency is going to have on the number of players being drafted. This year is going to be almost a record low. At this point, now that Newton has been picked up the D's only have to live draft picks, 2 & 3 and are using 42 for Stretch and probably 40 for upgrading Jetta unless they delist a contracted player to use pick 40 in the draft. I expect this to happen.

Haw and Gee clearly had some low draft picks and didn't have the high picks we have had. But yes the number of games played by draftees is staggeringly low.

[rpfc 27,573]

Mark Cuban, the Owner of the Dallas Mavericks NBA Franchise, decided years ago that 'the Mavs don't do development' and that all they target are proven NBA pros that can do what their, admittedly fantastic, coach Rick Carlisle wants them to do.

They get Free Agents and Trade and rarely do they go to the draft with a meaningful pick, or with many of them.

[Its Time for Another 4,054]

Mark Cuban, the Owner of the Dallas Mavericks NBA Franchise, decided years ago that 'the Mavs don't do development' and that all they target are proven NBA pros that can do what their, admittedly fantastic, coach Rick Carlisle wants them to do.

They get Free Agents and Trade and rarely do they go to the draft with a meaningful pick, or with many of them.

From memory the NBA don't allow the top 4 teams to get Free Agents. Or is that NFL. We really need to bring that system in urgently. Definitely before Dangerfield walks to Geelong at the end of next year. Although by then they probably won't be top 4.

[rpfc 27,573]

From memory the NBA don't allow the top 4 teams to get Free Agents. Or is that NFL. We really need to bring that system in urgently. Definitely before Dangerfield walks to Geelong at the end of next year. Although by then they probably won't be top 4.

No the NBA allows FAs to go anywhere (unless you are Chris Paul but that is another story) but a FAs team can offer more money and longer contracts than any other team so that does make a difference.

The NBA is heavily equalised though so teams don't lose money, the bigger teams share their profits across the league.

But we could never have that here because...

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[Earl Hood 5,789]

Mark Cuban, the Owner of the Dallas Mavericks NBA Franchise, decided years ago that 'the Mavs don't do development' and that all they target are proven NBA pros that can do what their, admittedly fantastic, coach Rick Carlisle wants them to do.

They get Free Agents and Trade and rarely do they go to the draft with a meaningful pick, or with many of them.

As The Dorks are now doing. It is easier when you are sitting up on top. But their success is still built on early pick draft success in 2001, 2004, 05 and 07. The rest they have traded in or developed from late picks and rookies to play roles and produced the almost perfect list. The future is they will keep plucking known talent from the likes of us until they implode at some stage down the track we all hope!