And if they had have offered it sooner we could have packaged it up and gotten Danger. Ain't that a kick in the teeth lol

No not a kick in the teeth rather a kick in the balls.

It hurts more (something u wouldn't know about sue!)

Mark Stevens just tweeted that gws came late with a massive offer. Pick 6 maybe. Dees didn't have time to consider.

Handy knowledge for next trade period when they have a few young guns coming out of contract next year.

I've just watched a 12 minute highlight (yes 12 mins lol) video on YouTube and I forgot how exciting he is, I change my mind, definite keeper and let's put him back where he belongs- in the forward 50!

Glad we kept him, but if one of these boys wants to come next year, and Howe can get the deal over the line...

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/adam-treloar-set-to-follow-tom-boyd-in-returning-to-melbourne-next-year/story-fndv8lf1-1227093960529

Compared to what we could get???

A raffle....

Howe needs, nay, deserves another year of coaching under someone who knows what he's doing....

I love Howie but that offer a little earlier could have proved really handy in other negotiations.

If true, a deal could have netted us pick 4 and Frost. That would have meant 2,3,4 and 23 and Frost thrown in. Wow. We could have got McCartin plus our rumoured two mids, Brayshaw and Lever and someone at 23.

Wonder what would have happened if that was offered at 10.00AM.

A raffle....

Howe needs, nay, deserves another year of coaching under someone who knows what he's doing....

A raffle is not an experienced mid.

Howe takes great hangers but not much else.

WTF were GWS expecting? Too late by a mile. Bunch of kock teasers...

GWS might think that they are good at laying future foundations and at the same time unsettling other clubs...

I think this is close to the mark, they seemed to be running around throwing up late offers and then leaking them to the media.

Trouble making by a bunch of .......

A raffle is not an experienced mid.

Howe takes great hangers but not much else.

GWS haven't much for the highlight reel in the evening news.

GWS haven't much for the highlight reel in the evening news.

Yes it looks great on a front page newspaper. But if we are 12 goals down i don't buy them!!

GWS might think that they are good at laying future foundations and at the same time unsettling other clubs...

agreed

A raffle is not an experienced mid.

Howe takes great hangers but not much else.

A bit harsh....his defensive game has improved this year and he had several very good games running off half back.

I think he's very coachable, brave, fit and has terrific skills.

We need to remove VFL standard players off our list before we shift Howe.

A bit harsh....his defensive game has improved this year and he had several very good games running off half back.

I think he's very coachable, brave, fit and has terrific skills.

We need to remove VFL standard players off our list before we shift Howe.

we need to be harsh Jumbo.

8 years of complete rubbish is enough.

A raffle is not an experienced mid.

Howe takes great hangers but not much else.

Howe is one of the most consistent high marks I've ever seen. And they are all contested marks. I look forward to seeing how he performs as a member of a more competitive team not having to play in defence because thats where the ball is. Roos has said Howe will play forward in 2015 after a learning year in defence. I'd like to see him play as a half forward/wing ahead of a midfield providing a competitive numbers of Inside Forward 50s. We should have a greater spread of tall and medium and small forward targets next year to capitalise on the greater number of opportunities. Hogan and Dawes should tie up the 2 key defenders Our other medium forwards like Kent and Salem are strong in the air as are small forwards Garlett and Kennedy - Harris.

I'd back Howe to kick 40 goals in 2015 if he is played in that position.

Compared to what we could get???

Well, please tell us who we would have taken with pick 6 and how this 19 year old would improve the team more than Howe next year.

we need to be harsh Jumbo.

8 years of complete rubbish is enough.

We don't have to be stupid though. Howe has a unique skilset. Lets develop and utilise that ourselves.

Remember the Hawks agreed to trade Sewell to the Dees for Ferguson but Ferguson wanted to say at the Dees.

Howe is us supporters only excitement. Sometimes our only reason to go to the game. Howe has been terribly developed and I believe could be our best player.

I love your work usually, but apart from the terrible development bit this is pretty much all wrong.

Mark Stevens just tweeted that gws came late with a massive offer. Pick 6 maybe. Dees didn't have time to consider.

Would have taken me 1 second to say "deal".

Good pick up, here are all of his tweets:

I love Howe but that's some deal.

6 for Howe....Done..

Took me less than 2 seconds.

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/37277-potential-trades-warning-reading-this-thread-may-self-destruct/page-128#entry1013853

demoniac Posted 15 October 2014 - 10:11 PM

No special sauces just unsubstantiated speculation...

Howes' tweet this arvo had me thinking.. "Fair bit going on today #tradeperiod"

From Talking Carlton...

"apparently GWS offered pick 6 for howe and then howes manager asked collingwood if they were interested for pick 5 cos howe doesnt really want to go to GWS

um

wtf?"

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/37277-potential-trades-warning-reading-this-thread-may-self-destruct/page-128#entry1013853

Well, please tell us who we would have taken with pick 6 and how this 19 year old would improve the team more than Howe next year.

I can think of 3 and 6 for Dangerfield. I'd take Dangerfield over Howe and some project every single day of the week.

I can think of 3 and 6 for Dangerfield. I'd take Dangerfield over Howe and some project every single day of the week.

Obviously, but the evidence suggests there would not have been time to complete that trade due to the lateness of GWS's offer.

Wyl says we should have taken the trade regardless, I want him to tell us that would have improved the team next year.

Obviously, but the evidence suggests there would not have been time to complete that trade due to the lateness of GWS's offer.

Wyl says we should have taken the trade regardless, I want him to tell us that would have improved the team next year.

exactly what Under said....

We knocked back essendon's pick 5 for Garland the year they took Hurley..... I wonder if we would've taken Hurley also? I was glad we kept Garlo at the time, although not so sure now.

In saying that, I'm glad we kept Howe. Natural footballer who did learn a few things under Roos in 2014 & I'm expecting him to take those lessons and apply them going forward, big year ahead for him.

A last minute trade for a contracted player is dumb unless its already known whether that player is willing to move to that club as the player has to consent it. And I doubt any of they players they targeted would've been able to make the leap to the western burbs of Sydney without a bit of time to consider, even for large contract extensions.

exactly what Under said....

No, I have clearly explained that the would not have been time to complete subsequent trades based on the lateness of the offer for Howe.

You need to explain how trading Howe would improve the team based on this evidence, not some fantasyland idea that trading Howe at the last minute would have netted us Dangerfield.

No, I have clearly explained that the would not have been time to complete subsequent trades based on the lateness of the offer for Howe.

You need to explain how trading Howe would improve the team based on this evidence, not some fantasyland idea that trading Howe at the last minute would have netted us Dangerfield.

Yes. Such a pity it wasn't 20 minutes earlier.