Just get it over. 2014 in some ways has been far worse than the 2 previous years.

The excuses we heard before were just that.

The "problems" were addressed. & still the players have shown little respect for the jumper and members.

Since Round 13 it has been diabolical. Kicking 3-4 goals in a full game on a dry ground.

Fcuk That.

Let's not get silly here.

It is a slight improvement but let's focus on the adjective that was used there: slight. We win those games against the Lions and the Giants then I would say we would have won as many games as I would have expected us to. That we haven't is majorly disappointing.

We won just as many games in 2012 but were busted open many more times and weren't in half as many games. Plus keep in mind that we weren't a chance in most of those games. Keep in mind as well that we basically had two higher level VFL teams (albeit one of them had Gary Ablett) playing in 2012 . Three of those 2012 victories went without saying.

Last year, as far as statistics and how many games we were actually in at three quarter time, is incomparable this year. Until the Lions game, I usually enjoyed going to the footy as we were usually in it up till three quarter time. After then, not so much however!

Paul Roos should not be immune from criticism. However, he has at least proven he can coach. He has done it all before. A lot of the group from before have been here through three full time coaching regimes: Bailey, Neeld and now Roos. Despite Neeld's abominable people skills, we can't say that it was all the coach's fault especially since we have bought in a premiership winning coach and one of the most experienced coaches in the caper in George Stone. Keep in mind Neil Craig has as much experience as Roos (not as much success though) and he basically had the same thing happen to him that Roosy had happen. Slight up tick in competitiveness over a short period followed by tiring and apathy which leads to annihilation.

Roos was right. The list just isn't good enough. There needs to be major surgery done to it. Whatever moves that are made now cannot be made out of spite. We need to get the most our of what we got and not just 'sack' everyone. The class of 2008-2010 will never get us where we need to be. We shouldn't push them out in the space of a year but they need to be moved on over the next bit.

what do you guys reckon are the chances we will kick more than 8 goals today?

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by Moneider96

Let's not get silly here.

It is a slight improvement but let's focus on the adjective that was used there: slight. We win those games against the Lions and the Giants then I would say we would have won as many games as I would have expected us to. That we haven't is majorly disappointing.

We won just as many games in 2012 but were busted open many more times and weren't in half as many games. Plus keep in mind that we weren't a chance in most of those games. Keep in mind as well that we basically had two higher level VFL teams (albeit one of them had Gary Ablett) playing in 2012 . Three of those 2012 victories went without saying.

Last year, as far as statistics and how many games we were actually in at three quarter time, is incomparable this year. Until the Lions game, I usually enjoyed going to the footy as we were usually in it up till three quarter time. After then, not so much however!

Paul Roos should not be immune from criticism. However, he has at least proven he can coach. He has done it all before. A lot of the group from before have been here through three full time coaching regimes: Bailey, Neeld and now Roos. Despite Neeld's abominable people skills, we can't say that it was all the coach's fault especially since we have bought in a premiership winning coach and one of the most experienced coaches in the caper in George Stone. Keep in mind Neil Craig has as much experience as Roos (not as much success though) and he basically had the same thing happen to him that Roosy had happen. Slight up tick in competitiveness over a short period followed by tiring and apathy which leads to annihilation.

Roos was right. The list just isn't good enough. There needs to be major surgery done to it. Whatever moves that are made now cannot be made out of spite. We need to get the most our of what we got and not just 'sack' everyone. The class of 2008-2010 will never get us where we need to be. We shouldn't push them out in the space of a year but they need to be moved on over the next bit.

conversely the opposition kick straight in the 4 games we won and we could have won zero games

it was what it was

you got the slight bit right

however you could argue that the last third of the season saw us go backwards

all in all a pretty tish year

what do you guys reckon are the chances we will kick more than 8 goals today?

Last game of the year,anything turns up.

Sometimes the players have a hefty bet for the goin away party and invest bigtime in a silly bet.

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Final teams - No changes. Subs: Aidan Riley and Nick Dal Santo

what the hell nth. Del Santo?

bit disappointed riley is the sub again. He shows something when he comes on. Like to see him play 4 quarters,

50% improvement on last year ?

Final I/C: Watts, Viney, M.Jones & Riley (sub) interesting bench.

Reckon Riley deserves more than being a sub.

final game of the year and Riley is sub, come on Roosy

stick Mckenzie there hes useless

OK - who has what on the menu tonight?

Mine is curry and rice - home made korma and rogan josh. Aperitifs have been a few beers and now moved onto the wine. Decided that the game being at Etihad, I'm better off not being on full alert for the broadcast.

Ferck the food - I'm on my second bottle of shiraz. (couple of stubbies to lubricate the palate first of course)

Heading to my favourite restaurant in Fremantle to celebrate my 30th. Then, like the sucker I am, I'll come home and watch the recorded game. At least I'll be able to fast forward it. My record so far was the GWS game, I watched it in 4 1/2 minutes, longest 4 1/2 minutes ever.

Happy BD, ET. And your likely choice from the menu will be.....?

About to walk in to the ground. Watts on the pine to start... If it all turns to $heet I have s book I can read between norf goals.

Reckon Riley deserves more than being a sub.

Not until he improves his disposal efficiency.

Happy BD, ET. And your likely choice from the menu will be.....?

I'll try several different things however my favourite is the sticky lamb ribs washed down with a couple Brooklyn lagers followed by some form of red.

OK - who has what on the menu tonight?

Mine is curry and rice - home made korma and rogan josh. Aperitifs have been a few beers and now moved onto the wine. Decided that the game being at Etihad, I'm better off not being on full alert for the broadcast.

Grotty old strazz sanga, pot of tea and sitting alone and bored,game hasnt even started and im bored..

Might be casually shaken to pursue a tazzy beer or 2 later on.

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by jazza

salem a very late out with illness. Barry in. How does someone become ill so late?

Heading to my favourite restaurant in Fremantle to celebrate my 30th. Then, like the sucker I am, I'll come home and watch the recorded game. At least I'll be able to fast forward it. My record so far was the GWS game, I watched it in 4 1/2 minutes, longest 4 1/2 minutes ever.

Happy birthday always appreciate you guys in the west being Dee fans.

Hang in there jazza. The game might be more engaging than we expect.

Schmidt (17) is one of the umpires. Ugh

Grotty old strazz sanga, pot of tea and sitting alone and bored,game hasnt even started and im bored..

Might be casually shaken to pursue a tazzy beer or 2 later on.

You'll be tongueing for a smoke!!

salem a very late out with illness. Barry in. How does someone become ill so late?

lol what

well theres goes a lot of of peoples interest level, Salem was one of the only treason for Demon fans to watch the final game

lol what

well theres goes a lot of of peoples interest level, Salem was one of the only treason for Demon fans to watch the final game

Just minutes ago he was warming up with Viney?

Well I chose not to go tonight and I'm glad I did.

Can watch at home and choose to go out at half time if this turns out as I expect it will.

Thank god this season ends tonight. I think I speak for a lot of us when I say it's been emotionally exhausting!