I find this very interesting:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-20/do-the-demons-need-a-priority-pick

The poll right now shows 33% in favour of the dees getting a PP.

When the exact same poll was embedded in the Barrett article this morning, it was sitting at 27%.

Quite an upswing. Interesting how an article presenting both sides of an argument produced a 6% increase in favourable votes over Barrett's ill thought out negativity rant.

Those figures are pleasantly surprising given there are relatively so few MFC supporters to vote (and even we seem to be somewhat split on the matter) and that the supporters of other clubs who you'd think were most likely to vote on any issue would be the most rabid in support of their own club.

Edited August 20, 201410 yr by sue

I find this very interesting:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-20/do-the-demons-need-a-priority-pick

The poll right now shows 33% in favour of the dees getting a PP.

When the exact same poll was embedded in the Barrett article this morning, it was sitting at 27%.

Quite an upswing. Interesting how an article presenting both sides of an argument produced a 6% increase in favourable votes over Barrett's ill thought out negativity rant.

quite odd really. Certainly not what your expect from the madding crowd is it.

given mfc supporters would be <5% and most club supporters are quite insular on these matters, then 33% is actually quite strong support

Unbelievable in fact dc

Can you vote more than once?

Unbelievable in fact dc

Can you vote more than once?

Mhm. I think I've voted like 10 times...not 100 percent sure if they didn't include the others

Mhm. I think I've voted like 10 times...not 100 percent sure if they didn't include the others

only 10 times mone? hell i voted at least 300 times

only joshing, lol

I find this very interesting:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-20/do-the-demons-need-a-priority-pick

The poll right now shows 33% in favour of the dees getting a PP.

When the exact same poll was embedded in the Barrett article this morning, it was sitting at 27%.

Quite an upswing. Interesting how an article presenting both sides of an argument produced a 6% increase in favourable votes over Barrett's ill thought out negativity rant.

Peter Ryan should know - he is an AFL journo appointed to the Demons.

He is a journo who knows our list and our issues.

He has been paid to specifically know that stuff.

Now we are passing the hat around. I'm embarrassed. As a football club we are absolute sh it. We cannot sink any lower. No passion no pride.

I couldnt agree more, absolutely [censored] embarrasing, seriously lets turn thes guys into winners,I know they tried hard to lose over the weekend (not forgetting GWS came within 4pts to Aweforn at the G this yr) but really when are we going to play football, clearly sides pick up on our vibes and just play to destroy us. Get with the program MFC, there is actually talent there and fark frawley off and lets get some spine

I couldnt agree more, absolutely [censored] embarrasing, seriously lets turn thes guys into winners,I know they tried hard to lose over the weekend (not forgetting GWS came within 4pts to Aweforn at the G this yr) but really when are we going to play football, clearly sides pick up on our vibes and just play to destroy us. Get with the program MFC, there is actually talent there and fark frawley off and lets get some spine

Not anywhere near enough DS

Greg Swann just moments ago on SEN said he doesn't think a pick immediately after our first pick is fair, but "it would probably be fair if we got a pick after the bottom 9 teams or at the end of the first round." (paraphrasing)

Greg Swann just moments ago on SEN said he doesn't think a pick immediately after our first pick is fair, but "it would probably be fair if we got a pick after the bottom 9 teams or at the end of the first round." (paraphrasing)

Wasn't he in charge at the blues during K cup year?

Now there is an honest operator

Just surprised to hear another club figure support MFC's claim.

I've never thought an early pick was likely, but I do think that later options are definitely possible.

Allan Richardson said it would be surprising if we got one and St Kilda didnt because we were higher on the ladder then they are.

Well maybe if they didnt tank and trade out all there senior players and send playera to surgery we wouldnt be higher.

I agree he shouldn't comment on topic. But st kilda aren't tanking...their genuinely [censored] like us

Greg Swann just moments ago on SEN said he doesn't think a pick immediately after our first pick is fair, but "it would probably be fair if we got a pick after the bottom 9 teams or at the end of the first round." (paraphrasing)

Honestly I would accept that, we lost Mitch Clark for nothing who we gave up a first round pick for. You want to talk about extraordinary circumstances surely he's the perfect example of that.

I agree he shouldn't comment on topic. But st kilda aren't tanking...their genuinely [censored] like us

difference being that they almost won a grand final a few years ago. A rebuild and the associated pain is appropriate timing for them, though they should get some help in some form from the AFL.

Edited August 20, 201410 yr by sue

Honestly I would accept that, we lost Mitch Clark for nothing who we gave up a first round pick for. You want to talk about extraordinary circumstances surely he's the perfect example of that.

Well Mr Evans would say he is not dead so that does not count.

St kilda would have a fit if we got pick 1 and took McCartin forcing them to take Wright for a tall.

Gillon McLachlan should be telling Evans to shut his trap.

If he has indeed made commented on the likely outcome of our application, the club should show some strength and confront the AFL about one of its officers preempting the decision (which might open up a challenge if the outcome is adverse to the club). The situation is made more unpalatable by the fact that he is a former employee of the club. We have had enough problems caused by disgruntled employees in the past - I hope he's not another one.

Gillon McLachlan should be telling Evans to shut his trap.

If he has indeed made commented on the likely outcome of our application, the club should show some strength and confront the AFL about one of its officers preempting the decision (which might open up a challenge if the outcome is adverse to the club). The situation is made more unpalatable by the fact that he is a former employee of the club. We have had enough problems caused by disgruntled employees in the past - I hope he's not another one.

I would say it is a lock wj

Gillon McLachlan should be telling Evans to shut his trap.

If he has indeed made commented on the likely outcome of our application, the club should show some strength and confront the AFL about one of its officers preempting the decision (which might open up a challenge if the outcome is adverse to the club). The situation is made more unpalatable by the fact that he is a former employee of the club. We have had enough problems caused by disgruntled employees in the past - I hope he's not another one.

This is Evans testing the waters, sussing out how much clout he has. Gil ought to knock it right on the head and tell the pissant to climb back in his little box. Its actually a test of leadership...wonder if Mclachlan realises it?

This is Evans testing the waters, sussing out how much clout he has. Gil ought to knock it right on the head and tell the pissant to climb back in his little box. Its actually a test of leadership...wonder if Mclachlan realises it?

I wonder if he is up to it bb

No signs so far just the mutterings of a populist

Well Mr Evans would say he is not dead so that does not count.

ramunaskis wasn't dead either but they allowed essenscum to redraft him gratis

ramunaskis wasn't dead either but they allowed essenscum to redraft him gratis

Pre Gil and Evans times dc

I would say it is a lock wj

Wally Lock?

A great Demon premiership player who was unlucky enough to play in only one winning grand final (missing three others due to injury).

Don't even dare to mention the name in the same breath as Evans.

Also, if Vlad was around he would have impaled the bloke by now for playing those games. It's an absolute disgrace and I hope PJ diplomatically makes his displeasure known.

The AFL has certain criteria to apply - if we don't qualify on the basis of those criteria, then so be it. If we do qualify (and I think the case for is unimpeachable) then let us have the pick. It's a drop in the ocean compared to what the AFL handed out to GCS and GWS and the rule has to remain to help clubs that are genuinely in trouble.

Could a priority pick be traded for a little elan to share amongst the current players? They are the ones that need help.

But so many of the current players don't lack elan - what they lack is the ability to be AFL players.

It is not effort that is lacking - it is ability that is lacking.