Really? He's the flakiest of the lot.

I wouldn't burn a top 20 pick on him.

Think Barry Brooks, John Meesen, Matt Leuenberger, Ayce Cordy... even bloody Kreuzer is a disappointment.

You don't take rucks with early picks unless you can't miss.

And he has barely shown flashes.

As a forward, he's far from convincing, but I think ruck will be his position.

A bit hard on Leuenberger, probably the best of that lot but injury prone.

...but I agree with you on Wright. Looks to be a ruckman and the only reason he will go as a high pick is some desperate sides needing KPP's.

You sure about that

May be wrong but always thought that was the case. Still doubt he would be worth much in the trade.

I stand corrected Pickles was drafted from Claremont but I think he must have trained with the Eagles at some stage.

A bit hard on Leuenberger, probably the best of that lot but injury prone.

...but I agree with you on Wright. Looks to be a ruckman and the only reason he will go as a high pick is some desperate sides needing KPP's.

Exactly my thoughts on Berger, but that would make him not worth the pick, wouldn't it?

If Wright is similarly fragile I'd err on the side of caution.

Exactly my thoughts on Berger, but that would make him not worth the pick, wouldn't it?

If Wright is similarly fragile I'd err on the side of caution.

I would err on the side of caution, I think some desperate clubs may not.

4 and 5 for Danger is a bit rich. I love him but the idea is that Top 5 talent brings stars and giving away two for one player is the opposite of that.

Trading in a proven AFL PROVEN superstar vs 2 POTENTIAL superstars.

People over-rate picks. I'd trade 4+5 in a heartbeat for an AFL proven superstar. Anyone who wouldn't hasn't learnt anything from the past 7-8 years. We've had more top draft picks than any club (bar expansion clubs) and still haven't landed a superstar. Just because a player is picked early doesn't guarantee he will be a star. Look at the previous #1 picks; Gibbs, Kreuzer, Watts, Scully, Swallow, Patton. None are stars, in fact none are anything better than B grade at this stage. If the draft were done again today, none of them would be taken top 5. It's luck of the draw, and if you have the opportunity to trade in a superstar, you do it.

10 posts in a row, dee-luded. Wow. I'm impressed - or concerned, not sure which.

I've merged them all in to one mega-post, for everyone's enjoyment.

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Edited July 4, 201411 yr by dee-luded

Trading in a proven AFL PROVEN superstar vs 2 POTENTIAL superstars.

People over-rate picks. I'd trade 4+5 in a heartbeat for an AFL proven superstar. Anyone who wouldn't hasn't learnt anything from the past 7-8 years. We've had more top draft picks than any club (bar expansion clubs) and still haven't landed a superstar. Just because a player is picked early doesn't guarantee he will be a star. Look at the previous #1 picks; Gibbs, Kreuzer, Watts, Scully, Swallow, Patton. None are stars, in fact none are anything better than B grade at this stage. If the draft were done again today, none of them would be taken top 5. It's luck of the draw, and if you have the opportunity to trade in a superstar, you do it.

Agree with the first bit.

Basically we need players to replace the 22 that consistently has played this year. Whether they're on our list and just injured (Trengove,Toumpas, Hogan), they still need to be replaced and become back up

Terlich: HB flanker

Bail: HF, Fpocket

Mckenzie: Midfielder

Gawn: Forward (he just doesnt cut it at this stage to be playing AFL)

Matt Jones is questionable

My son suggested this last night! Food for thought.

Trade up to trade in so

package WATTS and GRIMES to Richmond for RIEWOLDT!

ah yep I would do it in a heartbeat!

My son suggested this last night! Food for thought.

Trade up to trade in so

package WATTS and GRIMES to Richmond for RIEWOLDT!

ah yep I would do it in a heartbeat!

sorry picket, you've lost me there.

I didn't watch or isten to the game yesterday, thought it was today, sick pet on my mind

Maybe you need a rest from the Dees for a week or 2?

Edited July 6, 201411 yr by dee-luded

My son suggested this last night! Food for thought.

Trade up to trade in so

package WATTS and GRIMES to Richmond for RIEWOLDT!

ah yep I would do it in a heartbeat!

Basically we need players to replace the 22 that consistently has played this year. Whether they're on our list and just injured (Trengove,Toumpas, Hogan), they still need to be replaced and become back up

Terlich: HB flanker

Bail: HF, Fpocket

Mckenzie: Midfielder

Gawn: Forward (he just doesnt cut it at this stage to be playing AFL)

Matt Jones is questionable

agreed JVFP, we need to keep churning to improve/replace our list from 18th player down. & those who are 28Yrs plus. Keep the older who are the good leaders, recruit RO'K....

& keep looking @ free agents & trades/draft is all we can do.

Would only bother with ROK if he's a delisted free agent.

My son suggested this last night! Food for thought.

Trade up to trade in so

package WATTS and GRIMES to Richmond for RIEWOLDT!

ah yep I would do it in a heartbeat!

Well then thank FK you dont work for the footy club.

My son suggested this last night! Food for thought.

Trade up to trade in so

package WATTS and GRIMES to Richmond for RIEWOLDT!

ah yep I would do it in a heartbeat!

Possibly one of the worst serious suggestions I've seen on this forum.

First the Vickery suggestion now Riewoldt... Give it a break FFS. Riewoldt only shines because all the other Tigers forwards are duds. Grimes is Melbourne through and through, no he's not the most talented player but his leadership is undeniable, he's not the captain for no reason. He's also still young, he can and will improve as time goes on.

And again what the f is the big problem with Watts? Day in day out I hear our own supporters bagging him when there are others at fault and just him, and he is not even the worst on field. Give him a f'k'n rest.

Possibly one of the worst serious suggestions I've seen on this forum.

Ok so we all want to keep a turnover merchant and an indifferent player and not investigate what it would take, to get hold of a bloke who can ( CAN) take a game by the throat! a match winner no less have I got that correct?

Now let me see exactly how many of these have we got right now?????

Or is it because you guys don't rate Reiwoldt? Is that right?

Ok then so if someone like ah Petrie or another key forward ( insert name........................................) was interested in coming across we would say no to a deal like this? have I got that right?

Coz if that is the case then we may as well not investigate any potential contracted player swaps because we are ah too unwilling to roll a dice?

is that right? Too precious, too comfortable ah and two more, too predictable and complacent to try.

Ah I think I get it!!

And if unwilling to trade these two are there other ah, too valuable players we would not trade out??

I think as Sydney have proved you have to be totally bold and totally ruthless to build success, to bad not enough on this site want it enough!

ah, I get it even more now!

Edited July 6, 201411 yr by picket fence

Essendon wouldn't want anything less than a 1st round pick.

Essendon should take three late draft picks for him. They'll need as many players as they can get their grubby hands on to field a team next year.

:)

Ok so we all want to keep a turnover merchant and an indifferent player and not investigate what it would take, to get hold of a bloke who can ( CAN) take a game by the throat! a match winner no less have I got that correct?

Now let me see exactly how many of these have we got right now?????

Or is it because you guys don't rate Reiwoldt? Is that right?

Ok then so if someone like ah Petrie or another key forward ( insert name........................................) was interested in coming across we would say no to a deal like this? have I got that right?

Coz if that is the case then we may as well not investigate any potential contracted player swaps because we are ah too unwilling to roll a dice?

is that right? Too precious, too comfortable ah and two more, too predictable and complacent to try.

Ah I think I get it!!

And if unwilling to trade these two are there other ah, too valuable players we would not trade out??

I think as Sydney have proved you have to be totally bold and totally ruthless to build success, to bad not enough on this site want it enough!

ah, I get it even more now!

Riewoldt is a spud, he only shines because he plays for a very average f'k'n team.

If Jack rewoldt came to Melbourne I would stop supporting for the time he was with us, absolutely hate him

If Jack rewoldt came to Melbourne I would stop supporting for the time he was with us, absolutely hate him

No you wouldn't, i bet you'd embrace and learn to love him.

In what position are we to say no to a 2 time Coleman medalist?

I'd take him in a heartbeat. And yes, i do believe he needs an attitude shift, which we would need to implement.

Riewoldt is a spud, he only shines because he plays for a very average f'k'n team.

Yeah, two time "Coleman Medalist" in a very average f'k'n team

And we are......................................................................................???

Would only bother with ROK if he's a delisted free agent.

exactly... I expect the swans to delist him, or force him to retire; as they have so many kids coming thru that want games.

they may retire him with a 1Yr pension. But I doubt it.

Edited July 6, 201411 yr by dee-luded

Yeah, two time "Coleman Medalist" in a very average f'k'n team

And we are......................................................................................???

Better than Richmond