we need another 2-3 Dom Tysons.

Young (20 years old)- check

Immediate impact- check

Leading by example-check

Star potential- check

Unfortunately you don't always have Pick 2 as a bargaining chip. Dom Tysons don't grow on trees.

Age is a concern but I wouldn't be totally against it. The senior core was ripped out of this club and it was premature, to say the very least. We need some older heads to help steer the ship in the next couple of years. Cross was a great get. Mundy would be another.

Edited April 7, 201411 yr by P-man

Unfortunately you don't always have Pick 2 as a bargaining chip. Dom Tysons don't grow on trees.

Age is a concern but I wouldn't be totally against it. The senior core was ripped out of this club and it was premature, to say the very least. We need some older heads to help steer the ship in the next couple of years. Cross was a great get. Mundy would be another.

ahah come on mate, i'm sure we will most certainly have at least Pick 2 to bargain with, plus a host of other high ones.

ahah come on mate, i'm sure we will most certainly have at least Pick 2 to bargain with, plus a host of other high ones.

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Hehe..yeah, fair point.

Ironically yes, all 3 would have been very helpful given our injury list.

All three would have been helpful given our list!

Yeah lets bring in another player who will be past his prime by then and give him truck loads of cash..... First of all he wouldn't come and play for us. Secondly this is not the formula to follow as it only strangles us in the second and third years of these types of contracts. See Dawes, Clark. We will be lucky to be involved in the AFL in five years time at this rate, forget signing more free agents of any quality unless we pay massive overs. We are the grave yard of the AFL. Ask yourself, would you sign for us if you were a top flight footy player?

Yeah lets bring in another player who will be past his prime by then and give him truck loads of cash..... First of all he wouldn't come and play for us. Secondly this is not the formula to follow as it only strangles us in the second and third years of these types of contracts. See Dawes, Clark. We will be lucky to be involved in the AFL in five years time at this rate, forget signing more free agents of any quality unless we pay massive overs. We are the grave yard of the AFL. Ask yourself, would you sign for us if you were a top flight footy player?

I would sign for whoever through the most money at me to be completely honest, but i am abit of a money hungry [censored] haha

Would rather:

Josh Thomas

Tom Sheridan

Hayden Crozier

Jordan Schroder

George Horlin-Smith

Dylan Shiel

Devon Smith

Matt Buntine

Jono O'Rourke

Will Hoskin-Elliot

Jed Anderson

Shaun Atley

Harry Cunningham

I would rather the existing MFC players pull their [censored] finger out and play some decent footy.

We need to trade over half our list. Interesting to see how much of that can be done.

I have lost all faith in any player drafted before 2013 except for Dunn & Dawes. They are mentally weak and or shot. This is what PR is now realizing.

Great kids. Solid trainers but useless on gameday.

Sweeping changes is the only way.

We need to trade over half our list. Interesting to see how much of that can be done.

I have lost all faith in any player drafted before 2013 except for Dunn & Dawes. They are mentally weak and or shot. This is what PR is now realizing.

Great kids. Solid trainers but useless on gameday.

Sweeping changes is the only way.

Howe, Trengove, Grimes, Frawley all won't be Dees in 2015 imo

I would rather the existing MFC players pull their [censored] finger out and play some decent footy.

But they won't. We have been asking that for 5 years.

It's over.

Howe, Trengove, Grimes, Frawley all won't be Dees in 2015 imo

That's a good start.

Bargaining chips. Sorry guys but that is what it has come down to.

This list of skinny kids are killing the MFC.

And i will not accept that.

That's a good start.

Bargaining chips. Sorry guys but that is what it has come down to.

This list of skinny kids are killing the MFC.

And i will not accept that.

Howe might net us a first round pick, he is an icing on the cake type player, which is no good if you have no cake

Trengove might relish a chance to play in SA so maybe Port or the Crows will send us a second rounder for him

Grimes works his butt off but really he isn't AFL standard in alot of areas

and Chip might as well play the year out at the Hawks coz that's where he will be

after that, Clark i reckon will retire, Blease, Tapscott, Strauss, Byrnes, Nicholson, Spencer, Jamar, Fitzpatrick, pederson and probably more will be delisted or traded for what little we can get

Howe might net us a first round pick, he is an icing on the cake type player, which is no good if you have no cake

Trengove might relish a chance to play in SA so maybe Port or the Crows will send us a second rounder for him

Grimes works his butt off but really he isn't AFL standard in alot of areas

and Chip might as well play the year out at the Hawks coz that's where he will be

after that, Clark i reckon will retire, Blease, Tapscott, Strauss, Byrnes, Nicholson, Spencer, Jamar, Fitzpatrick, pederson and probably more will be delisted or traded for what little we can get

At least 70-75 % of our list must be turned over ASAP (2 years max) otherwise we are dead.

Sassy this is why i argued for Wines over Jimmy.

Jimmy is cream and i am sure he is good. But right now he is superfluous to our needs.

We need base/foundation players.

Neeld really finished us off...

No experience with a hot head.

It shows that he would know, all he said to me when i spoke to him was they're chasing Frawley and Mundy very hard and are very confident they will get them

Are you thick?

It shows nothing, other than they have paid their membership fees for 25 years straight.

Nothing more.

Howe might net us a first round pick, he is an icing on the cake type player, which is no good if you have no cake

Trengove might relish a chance to play in SA so maybe Port or the Crows will send us a second rounder for him

Grimes works his butt off but really he isn't AFL standard in alot of areas

and Chip might as well play the year out at the Hawks coz that's where he will be

after that, Clark i reckon will retire, Blease, Tapscott, Strauss, Byrnes, Nicholson, Spencer, Jamar, Fitzpatrick, pederson and probably more will be delisted or traded for what little we can get

Howe can bloody stay. He is more than icing. We keep forgetting we are come from a long way back.

Are you thick?

It shows nothing, other than they have paid their membership fees for 25 years straight.

Nothing more.

and when you pay memberships at a club for that long and attend trainings and so on, you meet people and get told the occasional bit of information, but it's absolutely irrelevant because i couldn't give a flying [censored] what you think on me or my friend who supports the hawks

At least 70-75 % of our list must be turned over ASAP (2 years max) otherwise we are dead.

Sassy this is why i argued for Wines over Jimmy.

Jimmy is cream and i am sure he is good. But right now he is superfluous to our needs.

We need base/foundation players.

Neeld really finished us off...

No experience with a hot head.

Yeah, this is something i have come to realise the hard way unfortunately, i wish we had have just not bothered with Dawes, kept pick 13 and picked up Brodie Grundy

Its Lachie Plowman for me. Has the build and size of Mundy and 11 years younger.

I would talk to Bulldogs about a trade. They have a pile of young mids and need some talls. Maybe a Goddard or a Wright.

You know the old saying: There's no such thing as a free agenda.

A trade implies other clubs want our players. How many of ours have value?

I think we will probably be after some kpp's. Any suggestions? Shoot me down, but I think Tyson Goldsack is out of contract, and has looked ok this year so far.

A trade implies other clubs want our players. How many of ours have value?

Not our players - our early draft picks in a draft with a handful of blue-chip KPFs when there is a general shortage of them.

Yeah, this is something i have come to realise the hard way unfortunately, i wish we had have just not bothered with Dawes, kept pick 13 and picked up Brodie Grundy

Grundy would be nice, at the time the thought if Clark/Dawes was looking pretty good.

I would talk to Bulldogs about a trade. They have a pile of young mids and need some talls. Maybe a Goddard or a Wright.

If they want a top 2 pick they'd want to cough up a couple of them before i'd even consider it, Wright looks like a future star to me,