i almost drove to Casey (2 hours away) to watch this too.

I can't thank my hangover for much today, but i thank it for stopping me from coming to watch this rubbish.

Mark Evans, AFL Footy manager and former Hawks official, should feel justified in refusing to give us another draft pick, as he said at the time that we didn't need one.

Wouldn't have made much difference today, but just saying.

they will be a far better side without him. And free up salary cap space.

Whorethorn will be onto James Frawley big time this year.

He is no doubt thinking how nice it will feel to be on the other end of this next year.

I know its early but I think he will leave to chase finals. Don't blame him either

He is no doubt thinking how nice it will feel to be on the other end of this next year.

It will be a walk in the park for him against us due to our inability to put and keep forwards on the park.

twitter feed must be broken no hawk goals for 7 or 8 mins

I just can't for the life of me understand how we can get annihilated by any team so easily. It's beyond me.

And the Hawk's supporters/members were filthy they did not get no. 1 pick for Franklyn. Just as well they didn't!!!!!

So will every one of the 17 other sides in the AFL i'd suggest.

Sure. But Franklin was on good coin. If these basterds win back to back flags it would be a pretty easy sell.

I expected a bit of fight from our midfield today.

At least Roosy wasn't shown fools gold.

Toumpas or Wines anyone.

Some context Hawks NAB cup campaign

Rd 1 - Hawks 158 - Lions 23

Rd 2 - Hawks 118 - North 53

Prac - Hawks 142 - Melb 32

We have done better than Lions..

For what that's worth

looking forward to some in depth reviews of our players and gameplay by people at the game today.
Some steps forward for some players still could have occurred.

I took my 2 and 4 year olds along today at 11 and they'd had enough at 11.30 so we left then. I may have been the real winner today.

James Frawley and Jack Grimes have collided in a marking contest - both hit the deck hard.

wooo.

Oh [censored] off. Come on, no injuries. Please!

James Frawley and Jack Grimes have collided in a marking contest - both hit the deck hard.

wooo.

Grimes career injury #1627364

Grimes coming from the field with a blood nose. Frawley still on the ground. The hit was incredibly hard. Courage from both.

is it courage to go hard against your teammate???

GOAL SPENCILLLLLL!!!!!

Grimes career injury #1627364

my question hath been answered..!

Quick, slip a contract under Frawley's nose and get him to sign it whilst he's dazed, delusional and concussed!

I'm not going to get worked up over the score. It sucks, but all I want is for us to come out of the game with no injuries to key players.

Just got back from Casey Fields - had to leave early for my son's birthday. Quick jump onto Demonland for an update.

Getting absolutely monstered around the packs. Our stoppages seemed to be planned around stationary players getting th ball THEN spreading. Hawks have players running through the stoppage, getting the handball receive, and either running through or kicking through with ease.

Roos has talked a lot about 2 way running. Our defensive spread has been terrible. Midfield horrible today, probably with the exception of Trengove.

The inquiry above about Spencer: both Spencer and Pederson have not had a heap of the ball but they are chucking themselves in and at everything. Their physical presence has been impressive.

We have no forward line in place today. I don't know if it is something Roos is not focusing on, but time after time the ball goes in to our froward line in a Pagan's paddock manner, and it is 1 Dees player to 3 Hawks - over and over again.

Hawks field kicking is pure and perfect. I hate the modern day Hawks but their kicking is lime watching a very clean form of footy.

Glad I had my son's birthday to come home to!

I genuinely thought we would not suffer anything close to a loss like this under Roos

for 2 weeks being a Melbourne supporter wasn't a nightmare

I took my 2 and 4 year olds along today at 11 and they'd had enough at 11.30 so we left then. I may have been the real winner today.

I think I was, I arranged to take my grandson to the game tomorrow and only realised it was on today at about 12 so I had to tell him we couldn't go and I'd take him to the pictures tomorrow instead.

Game over. Final score: Haw 21.16.142 to Melb 4.8.32.

Why does our club continually not understand how to spread when the top teams have been doing it for years?

Genuinely astounds me