Actually this always tickles me...the notion of nothing to play for. its actually this that goes to the heart of Cols problem, his attitude. That he ( or indeed you summise ) he has nothing to play for suggest he is most definitely the wrong type of person to ever have.

THERE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING TO PLAY FOR

Ask the Vineys and the nuggets of this world , indeed this team, ask Garland , ask Trengove, Grimes, Clark Dawes the same question and be astounded by their response, that is after they get over the incredulity of the question.

There is pride. Pride in self, of the club and its jumper of the value your team mates instill in you. there is the accomplishment and satisfaction of adding to something, in building not just the participating.

even if these real values dont get yo there... I would like to think honouring a contract whereby someone is paying you a very large sum to perform to your ability might actually mean something.

but your'e probably right...Col couldnt find anything to play for.

hes a midfielder's a..... btw

disagree Bbsy... The chicken Or the egg.

its a losing mentality-attitude that has been infected in this club for over the last 45 + years... it has at times been less prevalent, but is still embedded in our spirit, even if sometimes dormant.

in the past our kids have come in to a friendly, laughing, & happygolucky environment that is a bit of pretense. a cover for the disappointment felt from the expectation of another likely wasted season of hard work & playhard.

This has embedded itself into the clubs subconscious culture, it effects all. unwittingly taking its hostages, while there looking over there.

once its embedded into individuals, its mostly too hard to eradicate with out them moving on to new clubs where they are no longer in any sort of power. there they are at the mercy of the cultural environment of the new club, & its hierarchy.

its Hard to shift out without dropping a bomb on the place & starting again.. especially after four & a half decades mostly of this going on.

This is why, even when we've had powerful lists, we've have fallen short at the crunch, Prelims' & GrandFinals.

& this is why I want the Clubs Offices & Boardroom moved out of the 'G'..... the hunger has to become insatiable, & unpalatable... OnField success the only break-fast for the hunger.

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Actually further to the ideas of compo keep in mind its the residual that is compensated . If we bring a FA in and lose Sylvia we may well get nothing . just saying

How quickly we forget Watts re-signing...

Anyway, it'll be hilarious if Col stays, after all the distaste towards him in this thread.

Look a bit like this I think:

I don't mind him leaving for Freo, he has a chance to win a flag. If he leaves for Essendon I'll be staggered, what a poor choice that would be.

Regarding compo, I have said and rpfc has said, there are 6 bands:

1. After our 1st round (pick 3)

2. After the first round (pick 17)

3. After our 2nd round (pick 19)

4. After the second round (pick 33)

5. After our 3rd round (pick 35)

6. Not good enough to warrant compo

The above picks take into account Essendon and Adelaide draft suspensions but not other free agent compensation picks.

I think it's likely we will get band 2 or 3 compo which I would be happy with for sylvia.

I can't see us getting band 1, and with 4th band I'd be disappointed because while on a competition scale he may not be one of the elite, he is clearly one of our best players, one of our few senior players, and that should be a big part of the "compensation" process.

5th or 6th I'd be fuming and accusing the AFL of trying to kill us quickly.

Anyone claiming "late second or 3rd round as compo" doesn't understand the compo band process.

Thanks for clarifying that Deanox. Very useful info. Of course, the compo is also calculated (as much as the AFL does any transparent calculations) using any FAs picked up by the club losing a FA.

Sylvia has nominated Fremantle

GONEE

Sylvia, Gone - Freo

Edited October 3, 201311 yr by dee-luded

Max GAWN

Denham is a spud! Col won't end up in Perth and I GUARANTEE that.

Col just announced that Freo is now his preferred club of choice - how are you feeling ?

i know how inconsistent he has been, but i liked him.. i for one am sad to see him go.. but i wish him well.

Max GAWN

sorry I realised after i posted & quickly edited

Denham is a spud! Col won't end up in Perth and I GUARANTEE that.

haha you look like the biggest spud now

gone

tears shed ..zero. Show me the compo.

Official: Sylvia gone to Freo.

Disappointing ....

Really sad news... All the best to him. Will be great for them.

Only positive is it will free up a bit more cash for a FA

Ok now this frees up some cap space. And hopefully a 2nd round compo.

Dont care that hes gone.

We better get a high compo pick though.

Anyone who thinks this is a good thing are in denial.

And I can almost guarantee we will all be left underwhelmed when the compensation is announced.

Disappointed, but not shattered. I still think we'd be better off with him than without. Oh well.

Once we pick up Cross and another FA, we wont get any compensation....

Lose him for nothing

This is a loss for us - just another senior player and a solid contributor that we have to replace.

As we know this has not been easy recently.

On club website

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2013-10-03/sylvia-departs-dees-for-dockers

Big loss

I can not fathom the flippancy being demonstrated here about the impending loss of Sylvia. There is a hint of the mouse with the electric pellet.

Exactly how many times does the club need to be decimated on the field by the loss of its senior players for it to sink in? Without Sylvia this year, we would have quite literally had ONE senior contributor in the midfield in Jones. We are talking here about the loss of our only other senior midfielder worth a pinch of muck.

Edit: Just seen confirmation he's gone. Getting fair compensation is now vital.

Edited October 3, 201311 yr by P-man