Young talent: do NOT trade pick #2

[Young Dee 1,303]

Mark Neeld wanted Watts traded for North Melbournes second round draft pick which then would have went to the saints for Farren Ray. All the Melbourne Recruiters and list managers were gobsmacked at Neelds request and every single one of them went against him believing Watts is worth a first round top 10 draft pick.

True fact..

So your point is Neeld was the only one not wearing rose coloured glasses?

[jackaub 1,402]

So your point is Neeld was the only one not wearing rose coloured glasses?

sounds about right to me

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

We have a real chance to get an elite talent that will become a superstar just like Cale Morton, Jack Watts, Colin Sylvia, Tom Scully, Jack Trengove and Brock McLean

[CBDees 3,167]

We have a real chance to get an elite talent that will become a superstar just like Cale Morton, Jack Watts, Colin Sylvia, Tom Scully, Jack Trengove and Brock McLean

Surprisingly, all of whom have been "rising stars" and BOG for Melbourne and/or their new Clubs!

[MadAsHell 4,212]

We should also chase Dale Garlett. The kid is on fire in the WAFL.

Not this discussion again.....

[rjay 24,887]

Mark Neeld wanted Watts traded for North Melbournes second round draft pick which then would have went to the saints for Farren Ray. All the Melbourne Recruiters and list managers were gobsmacked at Neelds request and every single one of them went against him believing Watts is worth a first round top 10 draft pick.

True fact..

Interesting...

[Adam The God 30,129]

Will present interesting scenario for the recruiters, we aren't really in need of Boyd while plenty of other clubs are so we may have a few options

• trade away one of the top picks for a ready to go mid and a later pick, while we use our other top pick on another future mid
• take the best two young available players with early picks
• trade both picks with clubs who finish higher up the ladder for a ready to go mid & their first round pick, giving us two players for 2014 & beyond & two young first rounders for 2015 & beyond

who knows always a fine line in knowing what to do but would be pretty sure Freo, Lions, Port, Dogs, Blues & Hawks (if Buddy goes) would like to get their hands on Boyd!

It's weird. For the amount of times I've said we should take midfielders, midfielders and more midfielders, I now believe we should take the best available. If Boyd is the best available, we'd be crazy not to take him. The next best sounds like they'll be a mid. I'd look at trading a PP (if we do get one) for an established A grader. I'd then go hard at an experienced, solid B-grader free agent. Throw cash at the FA. We don't want to give someone like Freo, the Blues or the Hawks a player like Boyd (if he is indeed believed to be the best bet) if that will help complete their premiership puzzle. Our midfield needs a shot in the arm, but our list needs further class across it too. If Boyd represents that then I'd be going with him at one.

Naturally, this is based on the assumption that we get pick 1. It seems like Boyd may not be there at two and perhaps it says something about him if he is.

[Pirlo 813]

Actually I'd be backing Jason Taylor to know what to do. Even last seasons recruiting has been a step up from the Prendergast years.

Last year was Viney.

[Little Goffy 14,462]

I'd accept a downgrade of pick 2, but not outside the top ten.

For example, downgrading pick 2 to pick Lucky 7, along with our third round, for a dependable midfielder.

I don't get so excited about top-2 picks anymore, for some reason.

What WOULD excite me of course, would be if we were actually working with pick five or six.

[Little Richard 6,262]

Last year was Viney.

Yeah I know, that's why I said even last year was better than Prendergast. I liked Vineys approach with the more mature blokes in the draft, has worked well with Terlich and Jones.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Mark Neeld wanted Watts traded for North Melbournes second round draft pick which then would have went to the saints for Farren Ray. All the Melbourne Recruiters and list managers were gobsmacked at Neelds request and every single one of them went against him believing Watts is worth a first round top 10 draft pick.

True fact..

Bloody hell ...

[junk 342]

We shouldn't be rewarded for being pathetic,most likely ruin the life of another youngster.

It's time we stand on own two feet.

[Pennant St Dee 13,118]

It's weird. For the amount of times I've said we should take midfielders, midfielders and more midfielders, I now believe we should take the best available. If Boyd is the best available, we'd be crazy not to take him. The next best sounds like they'll be a mid. I'd look at trading a PP (if we do get one) for an established A grader. I'd then go hard at an experienced, solid B-grader free agent. Throw cash at the FA. We don't want to give someone like Freo, the Blues or the Hawks a player like Boyd (if he is indeed believed to be the best bet) if that will help complete their premiership puzzle. Our midfield needs a shot in the arm, but our list needs further class across it too. If Boyd represents that then I'd be going with him at one.

Naturally, this is based on the assumption that we get pick 1. It seems like Boyd may not be there at two and perhaps it says something about him if he is.

Meth Coast in the last 20 years have never deviated from their method of taking the best player available, despite team needs. They have a philosophy of picking up KPP'S with later picks, rookie etc unless they happen to be the best available then they will take them should the option arise in the draft

[rjay 24,887]

Meth Coast in the last 20 years have never deviated from their method of taking the best player available, despite team needs. They have a philosophy of picking up KPP'S with later picks, rookie etc unless they happen to be the best available then they will take them should the option arise in the draft

I think we need to take best available, we made the mistake before of picking on type of player. If Boyd is it then we should take him.

[baysidedave 246]

Likely we will have pick #2 in 2013 draft.

Whilst our player development is poor, I think we again need one of the best young mids coming through.

If you get a chance, get to watch some of Dominic Sheed (WA under 18s) against Tassie. He gets it in contests, runs, creates, takes players on, thumping left footer, and well built. Some has compared to Simon Black, but I think he is more like those type Swans mids.

A must GET. A leader. Ready to go round 1 2014.

footnote: pick #20 ish - Nathan Freeman (Sandringham), will be around this draft pick and is ready to go, tough, a leader and local kid.

l reckon we'll get pick one

[rjay 24,887]

l reckon we'll get pick one

Unless something changes dramatically I think we will get 1 & 2. One of them a priority.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Would anyone here trade Toumpas, for example to Port Adelaide (if they wanted him) for their first round pick?

[Little Richard 6,262]

Would anyone here trade Toumpas, for example to Port Adelaide (if they wanted him) for their first round pick?

Why not, we have probably retarded his development enough to safely say he won't play 100 AFL games (sarcasm).

[jacey 333]

Would anyone here trade Toumpas, for example to Port Adelaide (if they wanted him) for their first round pick?

We just signed him to a 3 year deal before game 1.

I know where you're going with this.

Ala Cale Morton. Sell before his price drops. IMO still early and will give him another 12 months but I get where you're coming from.

[ThreeOneSix 954]

Would anyone here trade Toumpas, for example to Port Adelaide (if they wanted him) for their first round pick?

Tough call that, his skills are sublime, he is the most elite kick of any first year player this year - by a space.

But he is a bit soft, but that is nearly understandable.

I wasn't a Toumpas fan, but I'd be leaning on keeping him, his skills are very good and he should be a player down the track.

Plus, he has media appeal, being Greek, he is an extremely likable kid and we need players that can get supporters on board.

Not sure any of the 2013 draft have the appeal of the Toump.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Tough call that, his skills are sublime, he is the most elite kick of any first year player this year - by a space.

But he is a bit soft, but that is nearly understandable.

I don't think his skills are all that good, his kicking action is a bit dubious.

[Fat Tony 5,220]

If we get Pick #1 (likely as a PP) and Boyd is a clear standout, we should look to trade down the draft. The one thing we don't need is another KPF and I would rather have (say) the second, sixth and eighth best mids in the draft rather than just the best two. I would even consider trading down Pick #2/3 for two picks later in the first round.

[What 18,810]

If we get Pick #1 (likely as a PP) and Boyd is a clear standout, we should look to trade down the draft. The one thing we don't need is another KPF and I would rather have (say) the second, sixth and eighth best mids in the draft rather than just the best two. I would even consider trading down Pick #2/3 for two picks later in the first round.

if Clarks foot injury is as bad and sinister as some believe, we will take Boyd.

[Fat Tony 5,220]

if Clarks foot injury is as bad and sinister as some believe, we will take Boyd.

Surely we could build a forward line around Hogan, Dawes, Howe, Watts etc

[baysidedave 246]

Last year was Viney.

yeah and Viney is going to be as good as his Dad, at first l thought Toumpas was too light but he will come on and be a very good player in 3-4 years. Terlich is a good pick up and l think Kent might have something. Matt Jones is going to be good value as well.

Edited June 11, 2013 by baysidedave