We are like a poor suburban side getting beat up by the good teams

so we just turn up for a game and don't even really try that hard.

Mark Neeld, you are a [censored] muppet. [censored] off and let someone with

a clue take over, someone that has something that resembles a game

plan would be nice.

Oh take , Gillies, Rodan, Pederson and Byrnes with you.

Cheers

We are like a poor suburban side getting beat up by the good teams

so we just turn up for a game and don't even really try that hard.

Mark Neeld, you are a [censored] muppet. [censored] and let someone with

a clue take over, someone that has something that resembles a game

plan would be nice.

Oh take , Gillies, Rodan, Pederson and Byrnes with you.

Cheers

and nicho, sellar and Bail

Insipid, soulless, gutless.....one of the worst teams in AFL history?

one of? try THE WORST

I dont think Mark is going to last any longer.

Neeld is doung unspeakable damage to the jumper and brand

If the board is not communicating right now I'd be shocked, then [censored] off.

I wish this club would DO SOMETHING! We just seem content to go through the motions and I'm sick of it. It's pathetic!

Neeld is doung unspeakable damage to the jumper and brand

Not Neeld. The playing group. They've done this to two coaches now.

Not Neeld. The playing group. They've done this to two coaches now.

What then does the coach take responsibility for, if not the performance of his side?

8 inside 50s for a half of football??

There is nowhere for the club to hide now...These performances were happening in 2008

In 5 years it has actually got worse.

Fact.

If Satyriconhome decides to have a go at the "Negative" supporters this week, he will get an earfull

I have had enough now...Hawthorn & Collingwood in the next 2 weeks....Who the hell is going to pay money to watch those Deaths, and that is what they are.

These players who DO NOT RUN or USE THE BALL in even an elementary fashion are being paid the same wages as Collingwood & Hawthorn.

It is a total disgrace...all my emotion has gone. I want action now. AFL action.

Top to bottom, clean the joint out...THIS WEEK.

I will not be paying a cent more until they are all gone.

Since 2008 i have given about $7,000 to this club, the club i love (and still do) but the people running it have completely wasted it.

These people will get no more.

I'm sure the inept one in charge will find some [censored] positive spin, or worse, an excuse for the performance.

Sick of him, and this club. The general crapness is seriously sickening.
How can anyone accept this?!

I'm sure the inept one in charge will find some [censored] positive spin, or worse, an excuse for the performance.

Sick of him, and this club. The general crapness is seriously sickening.

How can anyone accept this?!

PREDICTION: He will say "we won the third quarter, that is a positive".

PREDICTION: He will say "we won the third quarter, that is a positive".

Prediction: I will throw up

I'm sure the inept one in charge will find some [censored] positive spin, or worse, an excuse for the performance.

Sick of him, and this club. The general crapness is seriously sickening.

How can anyone accept this?!

Don't accept it. We have all accepted crap for too long.

Don't waste your money until real operators are appointed...They will come, as Peter Jackson said We are the biggest challenge within the AFL now.

Anyone who can lift this club will set themselves up for life...Coaching Players and Admin.

There is nowhere for the club to hide now...These performances were happening in 2008

In 5 years it has actually got worse.

Fact.

If Satyriconhome decides to have a go at the "Negative" supporters this week, he will get an earfull

I have had enough now...Hawthorn & Collingwood in the next 2 weeks....Who the hell is going to pay money to watch those Deaths, and that is what they are.

These players who DO NOT RUN or USE THE BALL in even an elementary fashion are being paid the same wages as Collingwood & Hawthorn.

It is a total disgrace...all my emotion has gone. I want action now. AFL action.

Top to bottom, clean the joint out...THIS WEEK.

I will not be paying a cent more until they are all gone.

Since 2008 i have given about $7,000 to this club, the club i love (and still do) but the people running it have completely wasted it.

These people will get no more.

2008 had good times though.

The team also pushed finals sides at time.

This team will get pounded by 10 goals against the Dogs. The Saints, maybe 5-8 goals.

Far worse than 2008, 2009.

2008 had good times though.

The team also pushed finals sides at time.

This team will get pounded by 10 goals against the Dogs. The Saints, maybe 5-8 goals.

Far worse than 2008, 2009.

Point taken, but we have been at that point of hopelessness since 2008, with some improvement in 2010 before it crashed again.

This is not a football club at the moment...It is a political mess

Whilst I agree that Neeld is dead man walking, aside from bowing to the masses what benefit is served at this time in sacking him? The only point to sacking him now is if we have a clear plan forward and I don't know whether Jackson has been there long enough yet to have this in place.

Edited May 26, 201312 yr by big_red_fire_engine

What then does the coach take responsibility for, if not the performance of his side?

Obviously the coach has to shoulder a lot of the blame for an insipid performance, but when the team is serving up the same lifeless efforts under two coaches with vastly different philosophies on how the game should be played, we need to say that there is a common denominator here and it's not the head coach. There is something very very wrong with the playing group, going well beyond how they are being coached. The team has no cohesion, no spirit and apparently no pride. Our best players are the ones who have only been in the squad for a year or two, and that is simply horrifying. I honestly don't understand how these people can occupy a position of such privilege and put so little effort into keeping it.

Perhaps this goes back to a comment one of the coaches made when they first came to the club about players being happy just to be on an AFL list. It seems that we have a huge proportion of players who are perfectly content to be on a list, collect their paycheques and coast along. Most of the senior players seem utterly indifferent to the notion of success. Maybe it's a case of Why try harder for what ultimately would cost you money? Maybe it's a simple lack of ambition or pride. I know that I couldn't play the way they do. I've never been able to accept a loss and I doubt if I ever will.

Regardless, I have to question whether the blame can lie solely with the coaches when the players have been dishing up this crap for five years or more.

What then does the coach take responsibility for, if not the performance of his side?

When they actually give a f uck. I've never seen a weaker bunch of c unts take to the field under the guise of an afl team.

Slack slack slack.

Whilst I agree that Neeld is dead man walking, aside from bowing to the masses what benefit is served at this time in sacking him? The only point to sacking him now is if we have a clear plan forward and I don't know whether Jackson has been there long enough yet to have this in place.

I sympathize with this point more than I probably come across. But on the other hand, I don't know how we can continue to play the way we are and change nothing.

It's getting worse.

I wouldnt be shocked mate, mcLardy is incompetant, the sooner he goes the better and he can take neeldy with him

If the board is not communicating right now I'd be shocked, then [censored] off.

Obviously the coach has to shoulder a lot of the blame for an insipid performance, but when the team is serving up the same lifeless efforts under two coaches with vastly different philosophies on how the game should be played, we need to say that there is a common denominator here and it's not the head coach. There is something very very wrong with the playing group, going well beyond how they are being coached. The team has no cohesion, no spirit and apparently no pride. Our best players are the ones who have only been in the squad for a year or two, and that is simply horrifying. I honestly don't understand how these people can occupy a position of such privilege and put so little effort into keeping it.

Perhaps this goes back to a comment one of the coaches made when they first came to the club about players being happy just to be on an AFL list. It seems that we have a huge proportion of players who are perfectly content to be on a list, collect their paycheques and coast along. Most of the senior players seem utterly indifferent to the notion of success. Maybe it's a case of Why try harder for what ultimately would cost you money? Maybe it's a simple lack of ambition or pride. I know that I couldn't play the way they do. I've never been able to accept a loss and I doubt if I ever will.

Regardless, I have to question whether the blame can lie solely with the coaches when the players have been dishing up this crap for five years or more.

We made bad choices when appointing our past two senior coaches - those decisions have contributed to the culture we're trying to shake off right now. Bailey wasn't the right bloke and neither was Neeld. A good coach can make a difference. Look at what Lyon has done at Freo.

Edited May 26, 201312 yr by Swooper Northey

Whilst I agree that Neeld is dead man walking, aside from bowing to the masses what benefit is served at this time in sacking him? The only point to sacking him now is if we have a clear plan forward and I don't know whether Jackson has been there long enough yet to have this in place.

I ordinarily would agree with you. But if you listen to the Chinese whispers, Neeld has alienated some of the playing group. (See Frawley, Watts) A new direction may invigorate them and help them to feel better about our future.