Next week, we get GC up in Qld it seems:

Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane

Saturday March 16 Suns/Melb at Southport, 11.30am

I eagerly await where Cats and Pies are playing

More so injured last year. Has and will continue to go alright given the ruck position. I still say we kept the wrong bloke.

you may be right. But like Moloney he was not going to give his best for Melbourne again. I still think Stef will be a good footballer, but we had to get rid of him. Hence he went cheap.

186 was very costly in so many ways.

I eagerly await where Cats and Pies are playing

Geelong/Pies at Simonds. Obviously trying to keep the crowd numbers under control, it's on at 4 p.m. Friday afternoon.

Interesting that McKenzie didn't play today despite being in the squad. Could he miss out Round 1? Especially with Magner playing so well in the middle

I wasnt there today but want to ask, Have the Dees improved from last years preseason?

If the answer is yes then we have something to look forward to.

If the answer is no then we are in trouble.

Next week, we get GC up in Qld it seems:

Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane

Saturday March 16 Suns/Melb at Southport, 11.30am

Hey Bing181 do u know how to go about getting tickets?

+ Viney and McKenzie

Certainly not all doom and gloom. If Saints weren't full strength they can't have been far off.

Long way from full strength, P_Man. They didn't have Goddard playing today

Big mistake getting rid of Martin, Moloney and Rivers (who has proven so good Geelong rested him today!)

I guess we just have to let the apologists have their say! (How did we go today?!)

Big mistake getting rid of Martin, Moloney and Rivers (who has proven so good Geelong rested him today!)

I guess we just have to let the apologists have their say! (How did we go today?!)

And how would we have gone with them in our side? (Rivers aside, I think we already know the answer)

And how would we have gone with them in our side? (Rivers aside, I think we already know the answer)

The answer actually depends on how we would have played them.

Big mistake getting rid of Martin, Moloney and Rivers (who has proven so good Geelong rested him today!)

I guess we just have to let the apologists have their say! (How did we go today?!)

How did we go with them in the team last year?

Big mistake getting rid of Martin, Moloney and Rivers (who has proven so good Geelong rested him today!)

We didn't get rid of Rivers or Moloney, both left of their own accord under FA.

We had a season full of threads trashing Moloney, and now he's gone it was a "big mistake".

The more interesting and strategic question is how would we have gone with Clark and Trengove in the side. Now I challenge anyone to argue that Martin and Moloney are a better package than Clark and Trengove.

Big mistake getting rid of Martin, Moloney and Rivers (who has proven so good Geelong rested him today!)

I guess we just have to let the apologists have their say! (How did we go today?!)

Rivers is missed, he's a class act and reads the ball well.Will be a good fit for the cats and good luck to him. The other 2 forget about them.

Martin did a couple of his party tricks tonight, did similar last year where he does a 360 and loses his compass. He is a big tease, looks about to do something great then can't complete.

Moloney, pointed, gave away a few stupid frees, didn't push too far or chase too much but did get involved in a couple of good give and gets against an inexperienced Collingwood line up. Saw McGrath totally burn him at one stage, wasn't happy about something earlier on.

They were impressive in the midfield with most of the good clearance work from Rich and Rockliff the clearance king got 2 a couple of gimme's, nothing in the centre.

Interesting to see if they hold their spots throughout the season.

I wouldn't say horrible. He's still one of our most composed and efficient players with the ball, I think most people have accepted he won't be a 'great' player.

Sorry, he's a horrible pick one. Not a horrible footballer by any means, but a horrible pick one. He's border-line best 22 FFS. He can only play on smalls, which is embarrassing and they lead him a merry dance, because they're too nimble.

It's a bit of a joke.

Sorry, he's a horrible pick one. Not a horrible footballer by any means, but a horrible pick one. He's border-line best 22 FFS. He can only play on smalls, which is embarrassing and they lead him a merry dance, because they're too nimble.

It's a bit of a joke.

Completely wrong...Watts is one of the most nimble blokes ive seen for his size, and is one of the best kicks in our team , top 3 easy.

The problem is we did not get rid of those that should have gone. And they are not players. The shadow of 186 is as black as ever.

..........and this may get through some of the thickish craniums that hang out here soon hopefully.

Big mistake getting rid of Martin, Moloney and Rivers (who has proven so good Geelong rested him today!)

I guess we just have to let the apologists have their say! (How did we go today?!)

You sum up many Melbourne supporters. You don't realise that Rivers left the club as a free agent and you don't get that Moloney and Martin didn't "buy in". You don't get that Martin's best position is in the ruck and that he's a very average key forward. We all know that Martin, who is an uncoordinated gumby, can have his 'athletic' good days, but he's no loss. He certainly doesn't make us better. And Moloney picked on crap sides and was a dud against the good ones. A B grader if I'm kind.

The footy stupid are alive and well.

I guess Geelong must be ruing the day they got rid of Moloney after watching the NAB Cup

Completely wrong...Watts is one of the most nimble blokes ive seen for his size, and is one of the best kicks in our team , top 3 easy.

He's nimble for his height and won the agility test at draft camp, as we all know, but he's no hope on slick small forwards. It's the second and third efforts that cruel him. And he was left wanting again today.

The club rightly won't let him stand anyone taller that 4 foot. It's his comfort level.

You sum up many Melbourne supporters. You don't realise that Rivers left the club as a free agent and you don't get that Moloney and Martin didn't "buy in". You don't get that Martin's best position is in the ruck and that he's a very average key forward. We all know that Martin, who is an uncoordinated gumby, can have his 'athletic' good days, but he's no loss. He certainly doesn't make us better. And Moloney picked on crap sides and was a dud against the good ones. A B grader if I'm kind.

The footy stupid are alive and well.

I don't speak for many Melbourne supporters - I express my own views. I believe these players were not given the best training and opportunities to play. The exact reason they left is not really relevant - they would have stayed if they wanted to and/or if the club wanted them. The footy stupid may be alive and well - the question is where they are and what they know and believe.

Rubbish... demonstrates your understanding of the game and of talent. Watts is one of the better draft choices we have made in a dismal period. For you to jerk around like you do is clear evidence of trolling behaviour. I don't know if you were at Nab 1 v Nth etc... or have ever noticed Jacks highlights over his short career. Nothing you cough up can ever distort the fact that he is a versatile running tall that has excellent kicking skills, very good marking skills and great play-reading ability. If you can't see that you are a poor judge.

I don't speak for many Melbourne supporters

Unfortunately I think you do.

As for training and opportunities ? You must endorse Bailey's methods. I don't. I'm rapt that Neeld has been the first coach in eons to clear the dead wood from this club.

You seemingly wanted more of the same. I can never understand why supporters become emotionally attached with duds.