http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/depressed-on-drugsdumped/story-e6frf7jo-1226565417850

Edited January 31, 201312 yr by Whispering_Jack
Don't quote whole articles, and don't try and deduce who the player is on this forum when anonymity is clearly trying to be maintained

I think naming players may be defamatory. I'm happy for the ramifications of the article to be discussed but we shouldn't be naming anyone.

And I think Mick's problems might start with his home life. His Dad's attitude to alcohol seems completely off the mark.

Im not for naming the player

Why should the 3 strike system be maintained when the clubs who employ the player are not allowed to know the status of a player??

At strike one the club should be fully notified.

*Any posts that name the player, allude to who the player is, or attempt to narrow down who the player is will be deleted on sight.*

(even if it's clearly tongue in cheek - sorry Billy)

That article seems the perfect place to advertise a music festival......

What will be the benefit of naming this player? Lets be mature enough to not get into this gossip, regardless of guessing right or wrong. Give the kid a bit of privacy. It's what his family requested as part of the disclosure at the sumit.

It was said at this gathering that every club has a drug issue, so whether this individual comes from us or not, we all have to deal with it to various degrees in a responsible manner.

*Any posts that name the player, allude to who the player is, or attempt to narrow down who the player is will be deleted on sight.*

(even if it's clearly tongue in cheek - sorry Billy)

agree nasher

but i bet there is about 20 forums at least around the country all playing the guessing game

and i think most will be more interested in who is the club, given there are at least 8 others referenced

Please don't let this be us, that's all I care about to be perfectly honest.

For those who just happened to miss Nasher's post: -

*Any posts that name the player, allude to who the player is, or attempt to narrow down who the player is will be deleted on sight.*

(even if it's clearly tongue in cheek - sorry Billy)

Drugs don't ruin sport..... Gambling ruins sport.....

Drugs makes sport better, but ruins lives..... Gambling ruins sport by opening it up to corruption...... If we want to clean up footy, then get rid of gambling first..... Then worry about drugs....

IT LOOKS AS THOUGH IT ISNT US

I'm pretty sure it isn't us, we didn't delist any kids last season who fit the description.

It's a pity that the main focus of this article will be to guess who it is and not to discuss the underlying issue

Its not us

Does the article actually say the kid was delisted after 2012?

I'm pretty sure it isn't us, we didn't delist any kids last season who fit the description.

It's a pity that the main focus of this article will be to guess who it is and not to discuss the underlying issue

What is the underlying issue? Young adults use illegal drugs? The AFL has a pretend policy in place? Clubs protect talent more than other players? I'm not sure anyone really knows what they really want done let alone how to do it.

Does the article actually say the kid was delisted after 2012?

Pretty much...

"Mick was delisted at the end of last year by a Melbourne-based AFL club, mainly for being not good enough, but partly because he had lost all interest in playing footy."

Drugs don't ruin sport..... Gambling ruins sport.....

Drugs makes sport better, but ruins lives..... Gambling ruins sport by opening it up to corruption...... If we want to clean up footy, then get rid of gambling first..... Then worry about drugs....

Completely disagree that "Drugs makes sport better". I'm not even sure I can understand any argument that states otherwise.

Unregulated gambling can ruin sport, but a properly regulated system can work fine. Gambling can, however, ruin lives and people with gambling - or drug - problems need help.

Completely disagree that "Drugs makes sport better". I'm not even sure I can understand any argument that states otherwise.

Unregulated gambling can ruin sport, but a properly regulated system can work fine. Gambling can, however, ruin lives and people with gambling - or drug - problems need help.

How else could we watch the Tour De France? I spend the first hour of coverage looking at the backdrop, then start watching the cycling for 5 minutes, then go to bed. Without drugs in that sport, I'd go to bed after I finish looking at the backdrop.

Its not us

do you know this for sure?

Couple of players fit the bill, especially a rookie who showed some reasonable form for casey?

Relax, not us.

What is the underlying issue? Young adults use illegal drugs? The AFL has a pretend policy in place? Clubs protect talent more than other players? I'm not sure anyone really knows what they really want done let alone how to do it.

Personally I think the issue is that the AFL doesn't want there to be a third strike so they'll do anything to keep the problem hidden from publicity. The result is that the party attitude of the players goes on unchecked.

do you know this for sure?

Couple of players fit the bill, especially a rookie who showed some reasonable form for casey?

They don't really fit the bill as they're not playing suburban football this year

Completely disagree that "Drugs makes sport better". I'm not even sure I can understand any argument that states otherwise.

Unregulated gambling can ruin sport, but a properly regulated system can work fine. Gambling can, however, ruin lives and people with gambling - or drug - problems need help.

there are recovery drugs that the players aren't allow to use, that would enable them to recover much quicker...... If the players were able to recover quicker, than there would be more time to practice skills and game plans.... Which would make them better at their sport.....

There are also drugs that help with awareness and would enable players to concentrate for longer periods of games....

Some Drugs ruin lives.... some drugs save lives....

How do we regulate gambling? Is it possible for gangsters to place bets? How do you stop gangsters manipulating matches? Are players, umpires and match officials safe on match days?

"Two years ago the clubs tried to get the boys off alcohol and they all turned to the drugs..."

I'm sorry, but what the Hell does he think alcohol is? I'm all for freedom to choose what you put into your body, but don't delude yourself about the nature of your vices.