Could someone please tweet this to jay Clark, he seems to have blocked me after I told him he kept repeating his tanking articles over and over

Carrot Top - yes - I agree - wish I had done more of a rant. As I said in another post, I wrote the article in a rush not long after Caro's piece, but the issue had kind of gone off the boil by then (I'm a slow writer - not a journalist's a-hole, alas), so the editor said they'd reconsider it if and when things hotted up.

Nah, it's fine how it is. I was picking on the standard of the work produced by the journos who regularly get the back pages. It's all yelling, accusations, in your face conclusions drawn from scanty or imagined facts and the journo playing judge and jury. Take it as a compliment that the piece wasn't run in that area, and leave the ranting to those not talented enough to write a thoughtful piece.

There are some good points in this argument but...

We are not guilty of breaking the rules so there shouldn't be any amnesty.

Stop the MFCSS. We are in this mess because of a confluence of events. Quit the woe is us attitude.

This isn't The Age changing tack, this was just a slow news Sat paper filled in with a 'write-in' piece.

It won't have an effect on the media zombies. It won't until one of the zombies stops eating brains and uses one to write something similar...

I have maintained two stances all along. It is important to note that this is a retrospective investigation and to all those who say it doesn't matter what others have done I say phooey - you cant have selective retrospectivity.

1/ we are not guilty of anything HOWEVER

2/ if the AFL in their wisdom retrofit our actions into a chargeable offence then the same retrofitting must be applied to 5 other clubs

It can only be all or nothing (hence the reason for my belief that If that it will be nothing)

Thanks to those who liked the article. As was obvious, a lot of the info came from my regular reading of Demonland and Ology.

To those who didn't like it, a lot of what you say, I agree with. I'm not sure where I stand on the amnesty business - 'no case to answer' and an apology for the harassment would be a fairer result, but I'll take anything. With the other articles published today, perhaps there is a change in the atmosphere which can only benefit us.

Carrot Top - yes - I agree - wish I had done more of a rant. As I said in another post, I wrote the article in a rush not long after Caro's piece, but the issue had kind of gone off the boil by then (I'm a slow writer - not a journalist's a-hole, alas), so the editor said they'd reconsider it if and when things hotted up.

After the latest idiotic revelations (as if we ever needed any inducement to fumble the ball!) , I had started to write a much stronger piece - opening line was: "I barrack for Melbourne and I'm as mad as hell." (Actually, I think my original article was a bit stronger - I had a choice paragraph about Brock and his connection to the Morans, but that seems to have got the chop - probably defamatory) Stopped when I saw they'd published the piece this morning.

Nutbeam - if you are in fact my wife, you should be at work. If you are me, then the situation is more critical than I could have imagined.

Cheers

Adrian Hyland has just gained an enormous amount of my respect. Along with Emma Quale the people at The Age do a great job, far better than those silly TWATS of the HUN.

Adrian Hyland has just gained an enormous amount of my respect. Along with Emma Quale the people at The Age do a great job, far better than those silly TWATS of the HUN.

I think you will find that Adrian is not an Age employee... he is a disgruntled Dees supporter who sent a piece to the Age which they decided to put to print.

I think you will find that Adrian is not an Age employee... he is a disgruntled Dees supporter who sent a piece to the Age which they decided to put to print.

after bottom drawering it for a month

Could someone please tweet this to jay Clark, he seems to have blocked me after I told him he kept repeating his tanking articles over and over

You too!

Yes, whatever people read into the article please don't take it for a change of direction by The Footy World on this issue.

Their heads are still deep in their own arses.

Yes, whatever people read into the article please don't take it for a change of direction by The Footy World on this issue.

Their heads are still deep in their own arses.

Bad day today rpfc?

a rather glum prediction there.

surely things a a little better than that

Bad day today rpfc?

a rather glum prediction there.

surely things a a little better than that

OD, a respected journalist not named Wilson got wind that the AFL investigators think Jack Watts not being played as an 18 year old who avoided body contact and wrote a 'Demons under pressure' article instead of the 'AFL losing the plot' article that any semi-evolved humanoid would have written.

We are still battling in the PR stakes...

OD, a respected journalist not named Wilson got wind that the AFL investigators think Jack Watts not being played as an 18 year old who avoided body contact and wrote a 'Demons under pressure' article instead of the 'AFL losing the plot' article that any semi-evolved humanoid would have written.

We are still battling in the PR stakes...

And will continue to be until we start winning games rpfc.

Once we do that the tide will turn.

The overpower theme on this thread is of burning flesh.

We do deserve a little of the criticism

And will continue to be until we start winning games rpfc.

Once we do that the tide will turn.

The overpower theme on this thread is of burning flesh.

We do deserve a little of the criticism

Yeah, I am reacting to the criticism that is BS.

That article shows an ASTOUNDING about face by the Age.

Someone's had a word to them, but not the AFL, because this makes the AFL look silly.

How is it an about face by the Age?

Newspapers should offer both sides, different views. Caro's views and reporting don't represent the views of The Age as a newspaper, rather merely the views and knowledge of a single reporter.

That articles just made me deperest to be a demon supporter.

And will continue to be until we start winning games rpfc.

Once we do that the tide will turn.

The overpower theme on this thread is of burning flesh.

We do deserve a little of the criticism

seriously though - I'm with RPFC.

I am happy for journo's to be a little controversial, I even expect them to "beat up" certain aspects of story and give them more credence than they should rightly be given but not one journalist took the AFL/investigators/whoever to task on linking fumbling and the non playing of Jack Watts to tanking. This has me firmly pointing to certain arses with certain heads crammed well and truly up them.

i cannpt believe the reaction to this rarticle....it is condescending for a start...it may appeal to the hair shirt wearers amongst the MFC supporters but Iam not anybody's POOR Melburne supporter...besides which it is nearly a straight copy of the thoughts and opinions expressed by Neil Craig in his presser........quality jjournalism AGAIN NOT

l suggest you go back to the hole you came from!!!!!

Did Dwayne Russell actually compared Jim Stynes to Lance Armstrong?

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If he did he went lower in my opinion of him, l thought he was lower than sharkshyte anyway. lf l was Sam Stynes l would sue that scumbag for everything he's got.

Yes, he did. And I hope the Stynes family sue