Was that the one with someone being referred to as 'the sieve'?

C I have tried to find it as well but gave up. How many days ago is "the sieve"?

I agree that disgruntled ex-employees talked to the tanking investigators. I even referred to those who have been named in the media ...

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/33594-new-ceo/?p=737608

But Jack claims on the basis inside information which he can't divulge, that this is either not the people involved or not all the people involved ...

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/33594-new-ceo/?p=737614

That's fine if it's confidential, but put or shut up ...

Now is this thread he's mischieviously raised the Mifsud/Davey/Neeld matter. Far from shutting the conversation down I requested he provide us all with the benefit of his knowledge. But again he has refused to explain.

Really it's reminiscent of Dr.Who's Scully to Richmond rumours. Long on mystery, short on substance.

Unlike Caro, WJ is not a highly paid journo. Forgive me if I am wrong WJ. Other than stating "sources close to the club", Caro did not come up with a scintilla of hard evidence. She put the elephant in the room, no-one else did and she did it in an effort to enhance her waning standing in the media. Once this happened, the AFL had to be seen to be proactive.

We were the sacrificial lambs. Now, to use the word "unsubstantiated" and not apply it equally to journos like Caro is to ignore simple reality. As someone said sometime ago on D/Land and did so cogently, journalists are in the media. They ought MEDIAte news and distill the facts, not extrapolate it for their own ends. It is when such rigour lacks in journalism, that an article printed in the mainstream media becomes the story, not the substance of what they write, which they claim to be the story.

A pox on all their houses I say.

C I have tried to find it as well but gave up. How many days ago is "the sieve"?

April 10.

Maybe I'm thick or just really poor at reading between the lines, but with all this to and froing between a few men I have immense respect for, I still haven't managed to pinpoint exactly who is accusing who of what.

I think it's just a case of the attack dogs coming out if anyone defends the current board and suggests that there are elements within the club that are seeking to destabalise it.

There are no faceless men, according to the attack dogs, but for some reason Fanbob keeps referring to them anyway.

Was that the one with someone being referred to as 'the sieve'?

Yes Clintosaurus.

The Acting CEO.

I think it's just a case of the attack dogs coming out if anyone defends the current board and suggests that there are elements within the club that are seeking to destabalise it.

There are no faceless men, according to the attack dogs, but for some reason Fanbob keeps referring to them anyway.

This isn't about you, son.

This isn't about you, son.

Son?

Son?

I think he likes you robbie

I think he likes you robbie

He wants to be my dad.

He wants to be my dad.

touching isn't it?

looking at too many rorschachs will do that to you

He wants to be my dad.

You are hankerin' for a spankerin'.

And not in a good way.

Daisycutter, this is your cue...

I'm not touching it

I'll leave it to biffo if/when he returns

maybe bbo will drink from the poisoned chalice?

Yes Clintosaurus.

The Acting CEO.

Who Spargo??

I'm not touching it

I'll leave it to biffo if/when he returns

maybe bbo will drink from the poisoned chalice?

Poisoned chalice?

I reckon you've been staring at my avatar too long!

Poisoned chalice?

I reckon you've been staring at my avatar too long!

you don't know bbo and spanking - it will be his downfall one day - lol

Poisoned chalice?

I reckon you've been staring at my avatar too long!

I see Jack Watts splitting a pack - is that good?

I see Jack Watts splitting a pack - is that good?

Tremendous.

And I'd like to make clear that you are a picture of good judgement and sound mental health.

(Disclaimer: not a real doctor; not a real rorschach).

Poisoned chalice?

I reckon you've been staring at my avatar too long!

I see a toad behind what looks like a giant eraser - reminder to self - stay off the blue cheese after 10pm

I see a toad behind what looks like a giant eraser - reminder to self - stay off the blue cheese after 10pm

You see a toad behind a giant rubber?

What is in that cheese? Or should I say "cheese"?

You see a toad behind a giant rubber?

What is in that cheese? Or should I say "cheese"?

smoked cheese!

Son?

He means 'son' in the sense of buddy, pal, sunshine or, Heaven Forbid, CHAMP.

http://the-flack.com/2013/05/caroline-wilsons-story-writing-template/

This is not news to anyone here but the arrogance of this lady to appoint herself some sort of moral arbiter is profound. I actually sympathise with James Hird because I'm so fed up with the tirade of abuse she hurls. She has become the ultimate lawn mower even beyond Patrick Smith. James deserves to be rubbed out and I think the penalties are about right (and wouldn't mind if they were harder because I hate Essendon) but please any bright legal ideas for getting this hag to shut up! I have often wondered what she has got on the fat controller as well?

This is not news to anyone here but the arrogance of this lady to appoint herself some sort of moral arbiter is profound. I actually sympathise with James Hird because I'm so fed up with the tirade of abuse she hurls. She has become the ultimate lawn mower even beyond Patrick Smith. James deserves to be rubbed out and I think the penalties are about right (and wouldn't mind if they were harder because I hate Essendon) but please any bright legal ideas for getting this hag to shut up! I have often wondered what she has got on the fat controller as well?

any bright legal ideas for getting this hag to shut up

mention any scandal about Richmond - Dustin Martin anyone?

This is not news to anyone here but the arrogance of this lady to appoint herself some sort of moral arbiter is profound. I actually sympathise with James Hird because I'm so fed up with the tirade of abuse she hurls. She has become the ultimate lawn mower even beyond Patrick Smith. James deserves to be rubbed out and I think the penalties are about right (and wouldn't mind if they were harder because I hate Essendon) but please any bright legal ideas for getting this hag to shut up! I have often wondered what she has got on the fat controller as well?

You're kidding right?

Hird was primarily responsible for the implementation of a supplements program that at best he failed to supervise and manage appropriately and at worst was an illegal drug program. Either way he's put the careers and health of his players at risk. The program was so poorly managed that the Club and club doctor can't even tell you which players took what supplements.

Hird is being portrayed as a hero by Burnside because he accepted a 12 months suspension and EFC have been stupid enough to extend his coaching tenure by 2 years the day he was found guilty.

Wilson calls him out on it and highlights the stupidity of the situation. She's not being some sort of moral arbiter, she's expressing the concerns of the majority of clear thinking people. Think about it. You've an employee who has disgraced your club and threatened the health of your players, cost you $2 million and draft picks and admits his involvement in it and you extend his contract the day he's found guilty.

Far from being a moral arbiter Wilson has been mild in her critique. If it was anyone but Hird you'd never see them in football again.