Nothing will be done until the compo picks are known when FA ends.

we just have to wait.

$500 000 for Chris Dawes??!!

FMD.

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In terms of pick 20 ? Geoff Walsh of Collingwood is on record as saying that pick 20 may not be enough - I think thats a tell-tale hint of what we offered.

"There are probably some better offers around than pick No.20, to be blunt," Walsh said

No Geoff walsh knows that Pick 20 is the max they can get, so if you want that you need to start at a position lower to meet in the middle, you NEVER open with your best offer, pick 20 in our case.

Thought you were smarter than believing what some Collingwood [censored] suggest on radio 10 minutes after Dawes nominates us, doesnt leave much time for us to offer pick 20 in between

$500 000 for Chris Dawes??!!

FMD.

500 large for a proven entity , albeit form up and down but theres reasons possibly for that. A player that would fit directly into the new game plan and provide not only on ground options but off -field benefits to a growing culture.

weigh this up against...oh I dont know.. A million for an over hyped mid or even some of our own wonderful bargains in contracting.

Collingwood know they arent paying him enough in the current market.

500 ?? as is often mooted here or abouts some one has to get it.

whats the average fee for a goal in the AFL these days ?

ka ching !

Based on what exactly?

OK star is a bit overs but he would be a very handy player for them. His cameos would likely be more frequent when surrounded by Lynch and CLoke and with him not taking a decent defender,

Just sayin..

He was underpaid at Coll.

The cap is $9.13 in 2013. If Dawes is on our list and getting $400/500k I don't really see the issue.

Again, Clark, Hogan, and Dawes means we don't have to worry about getting a tall forward for the better part of a decade and we only have to get the development of Hogan right.

Much better than Waiting For Superman (Watts, Cook, Fitz, et al).

Nothing will be done until the compo picks are known when FA ends.

we just have to wait.

Ive been mulling this over but cant quite find a how or why of FA compos coming into this deal.

Im just curious. Ive only heard/read of a compo being involved , Dee-wise, wrt Pedersen

where does a compo pick come into the Dawes deal. ?

Just happy to be enlightened, many others would too, form anyone.

And the dicking around continues

what do we know ...pick 20 is central to the offer. What can be added ? A swap of latter picks and its unclear in which direction that would go. A player and pick change combo, also a possibility

or

it might just end up pick 20

or

we might end up with pick 20, but im guessing ( and thats all it is ) that ultimately the Filth are more interested in space on their list and cap.

You hit the nail on the head BB.

If another player was to be traded, they still have to pay that player.

O.K. it may not be the $280k they were paying Dawes, but it wouldn't be much less.

I dare say you wouldn't get many wanting to jump ship for say 200K

No Geoff walsh knows that Pick 20 is the max they can get, so if you want that you need to start at a position lower to meet in the middle, you NEVER open with your best offer, pick 20 in our case.

Thought you were smarter than believing what some Collingwood [censored] suggest on radio 10 minutes after Dawes nominates us, doesnt leave much time for us to offer pick 20 in between

I am smart and unless lots of good players are involved in this trade we shall see just how smart when the deal is concluded.

This deal Will tell us lots about our beloved club im sure.

This deal Will tell us lots about our beloved club im sure.

Not sure what bb

Any clues?

Are we sure Collingwood are holding up the deal because they want more?

Couldn't it be us holding off because we'd rather use pick 27 in the trade?

Just a thought.

Have a bit more faith - we've done bloody well out of trade week so far since Neeld has been at the club.

maybe they want both pick 27 and pick 20 from us.

Are we sure Collingwood are holding up the deal because they want more?

Couldn't it be us holding off because we'd rather use pick 27 in the trade?

Just a thought.

Have a bit more faith - we've done bloody well out of trade week so far since Neeld has been at the club.

I agree JM So don't take this the wrong way

But he did not have a lot to beat

Not sure what bb

Any clues?

as i, but a humble member, see it there are any number or issues to gauge competence and direction by

Are we a slave to the need to show dramatic improvent and if so by what ends at what expence?

Are we more tempered and circumspect about where we are on our journey and what we need and can afford ?

Are we any good at pinpointing our needs /shortcomings and how to fix them.

Are we good negotiators ?

Are we able to play with the bigboys both on and off the field ?

These dealings are quite pivotal .

Edited October 16, 201213 yr by belzebub59

as i, but a humble member, see it there are any number or issues to gauge competence and direction by

Are we a slave to the need to show dramatic improvent and if so by what ends at what expence?

Are we more tempered and circumspect about where we are on our journey and what we need and can afford ?

Are we any good at pinpointing our needs /shortcomings and how to fix them.

Are we good negotiators ?

Are we able to play with the bigboys both on and off the field ?

These dealings are quite pivotal .

Hmm

Seems to me that most of those will take till this time next year to judge.

This time last year there were a considerable number saying Clark was not worth what we paid.

Even some saying it was an error after the first couple of rounds of the season.

But as always time will tell.

Are we sure Collingwood are holding up the deal because they want more?

Couldn't it be us holding off because we'd rather use pick 27 in the trade?

Just a thought.

Have a bit more faith - we've done bloody well out of trade week so far since Neeld has been at the club.

Again, I can only go on what is reported (and we know how accurate journo's can be) - but there are a lot reporting the same thing

- dogs offered pick 21

Collingwood (rightly) give scant regard to where the player wants to go - they want the best deal. If it is a deal for picks only can it be explained to me why Collingwood would happily take pick 27 from us over pick 21 from the dogs ?

Edited October 16, 201213 yr by nutbean

we dont have pick 27.. that is viney

we dont have pick 27.. that is viney

I believe people are referring to a compo pick that will be dished out to us to compensate for the loss of Moloney and the likely loss of Rivers.

I am smart and unless lots of good players are involved in this trade we shall see just how smart when the deal is concluded.

But you dont think MFC will want to offer the comp pick first which was my point? the deal may not get done for it and may end up with pick 20, that does not mean that we have it on the table now, we may settle to get the deal done, or may get it done for a compo pick and something like Martin imo

Again, I can only go on what is reported (and we know how accurate journo's can be) - but there are a lot reporting the same thing

- dogs offered pick 21

Collingwood (rightly) give scant regard to where the player wants to go - they want the best deal. If it is a deal for picks only can it be explained to me why Collingwood would happily take pick 27 from us over pick 21 from the dogs ?

They let Wellingham go for pick 19 or whatever when we offered pick 13? was that hardball not caring at all the players wants?

edit - reportedly offered pick 13

Edited October 16, 201213 yr by Jordie_tackles

OK star is a bit overs but he would be a very handy player for them. His cameos would likely be more frequent when surrounded by Lynch and CLoke and with him not taking a decent defender,

Just sayin..

Likely this and Likey that, that's all Melbourne has been for the last decade

A PROVEN Key Forward is infintely more important than a mid sized cameo playing forward

people complaining about dawes getting 500k need to remember what it took to get mitch clark...Mitch has brought the supporters back to the game.

I dont get

People dont rate the Pet

He can take a screamer

Or a goal go get...

I dont know why he's on the outer so much.He just needs to be consistant.

Likely this and Likey that, that's all Melbourne has been for the last decade

A PROVEN Key Forward is infintely more important than a mid sized cameo playing forward

Ah someone who understands, it also allows that mid sized forward to play a role in which he is more suited. Thus the benefit is twofold