Mate your out of your depth on this one..

Time to admit you have flopped on this one.

It's 'you're' DD36, not your.

And, you lambaste JW for his inconsistency, yet this project of yours plays several good games over five or six years.

Short memory, my friend.

It's 'you're' DD36, not your.

And, you lambaste JW for his inconsistency, yet this project of yours plays several good games over five or six years.

Short memory, my friend.

Clearly you haven't been watching too much football this year (or last) if you think Martin had only played several good games. He's now one of the elite rucks in the comp and might well be AA. We were stupid for releasing him and keeping Jamar.

Most of us knew he had talent and we also knew he could really only play as the number 1 ruck. We also thought he was a sook.

But I had no idea he could elevate his game to the level he has and perform so consistently.

Incredible athlete and very valuable footballer.

Clearly you haven't been watching too much football this year (or last) if you think Martin had only played several good games. He's now one of the elite rucks in the comp and might well be AA. We were stupid for releasing him and keeping Jamar.

True,but he is still only the second most famous "Stefan" on the Gold Coast.

Clearly you haven't been watching too much football this year (or last) if you think Martin had only played several good games. He's now one of the elite rucks in the comp and might well be AA. We were stupid for releasing him and keeping Jamar.

Not a lot, Moon....watching my own team creates enough angst around my household..

Anyhoo, Max Gawn is our number one ruck now.

At the time when the club needed players to stick fat and take on a leadership role, Stef chose a different path.

We all move on.

True,but he is still only the second most famous "Stefan" on the Gold Coast.

I presume you are referring to a very well known hairdresser in those parts and one who has coiffed me on occasion.

How a vulgar fellow like yourself has knowledge of him does rather confound me.

Not a lot, Moon....watching my own team creates enough angst around my household..

Anyhoo, Max Gawn is our number one ruck now.

At the time when the club needed players to stick fat and take on a leadership role, Stef chose a different path.

We all move on.

I don't think it was necessarily Stephan who chose the path; rather it was chosen for him.

I don't think it was necessarily Stephan who chose the path; rather it was chosen for him.

If that's what happened, it happened.

I'm not privvy to boardroom deals.

But, something in his behaviour, countenance and conduct made the decision easy.

I presume you are referring to a very well known hairdresser in those parts and one who has coiffed me on occasion.

How a vulgar fellow like yourself has knowledge of him does rather confound me.

I went to schoolies for about 20 years straight until the courts banned me from attending.

Still think it was an unjust decision but I got to see the great Stefan everywhere in my time up north every December.

I went to schoolies for about 20 years straight until the courts banned me from attending.

Still think it was an unjust decision but I got to see the great Stefan everywhere in my time up north every December.

This is too good.

Was very angry when we traded Stef, was always a big fan and thought it would come back to bite us...

With that said, i was probably angrier that we traded Gysberts... we cleared out a lot of players that post season, one was guaranteed to come good somewhere else.

Wasn't that upset when we got rid of him. I think the change of scenery really helped him, as well as a shot as no.1 ruck (he was usually forward/2nd ruck for us). 25+ possessions regularly for a ruckman is outstanding, like Stynes in his heyday

I think the change of scenery really helped him, as well as a shot as no.1 ruck (he was usually forward/2nd ruck for us). 25+ possessions regularly for a ruckman is outstanding, like Stynes in his heyday

I heard time and time again that Stefan's problem wasn't Stefan but somebody close to him. Change of scenery was best for all particularly Stefan on and off the field.

I heard time and time again that Stefan's problem wasn't Stefan but somebody close to him. Change of scenery was best for all particularly Stefan on and off the field.

Likewise heard. That somebody is no longer at the club, ironically.

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I heard time and time again that Stefan's problem wasn't Stefan but somebody close to him. Change of scenery was best for all particularly Stefan on and off the field.

You heard right.

Most of us knew he had talent and we also knew he could really only play as the number 1 ruck. We also thought he was a sook.

But I had no idea he could elevate his game to the level he has and perform so consistently.

Incredible athlete and very valuable footballer.

I'd long thought that, if left there, he could become a really decent CHB

Not sure about the sook thing either. His best season for us followed a massive self-imposed pre-season. The old 10 mile run on Xmas day type and it paid dividends

Next season it all went titz up and I'm not convinced he was mainly responsible

Really good player now. Plays like a giant ruck rover although a few of his taps in the last quarter were superb. He's skilled up in that area too

Ah well - I guess when you give that many players the lemonade & sars, odds are one will come back to bite you

I'd long thought that, if left there, he could become a really decent CHB

Not sure about the sook thing either. His best season for us followed a massive self-imposed pre-season. The old 10 mile run on Xmas day type and it paid dividends

Next season it all went titz up and I'm not convinced he was mainly responsible

Really good player now. Plays like a giant ruck rover although a few of his taps in the last quarter were superb. He's skilled up in that area too

Ah well - I guess when you give that many players the lemonade & sars, odds are one will come back to bite you

He's no CHB, although he can pinch hit.

He's a first ruck. He's never had consistency anywhere else.