Herald Sun reports Gysberts to be shown the door...Neeld has gone mad!!!

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

We're now up to 15 pages on an unconfirmed rumour which Neeld has apparently tried to quash.

How many pages will there be about a player who is actually delisted?

Oh, I've just started page 16.

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Edited September 10, 2012 by La Dee-vina Comedia

[beelzebub 22,621]

not bad huh !!! lol

[dee-luded 2,958]

Let it be Oats then ...... and they can all Quaker when confronted with what lays ahead !!

We can all dream. At least i did. Quakers you say?

All righty then.... it is Spring.

[dee-luded 2,958]

We're now up to 15 pages on an unconfirmed rumour which Neeld has apparently tried to quash.

How many pages will there be about a player who is actually delisted?

Oh, I've just started page 16.

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Still waiting for a confirmation, or a New Dawn. whichever comes first.

By the Way, I think we're all hoping to change our clubs ways, & sometimes it takes some pain, to see what has really been going on before us, (last 10 Years). And then want to right it.

[Undeeterred 2,898]

Absolutely. Many on here confuse negativity with reality.

If we lose our picks 11-12 when they didn't even play 10 games between them it will be the final chapter of "the old clueless" MFC.

Or maybe you confuse reality with negativity.

[Sir Why You Little 35,264]

Or maybe you confuse reality with negativity.

Not at all.

[Brian Wilson 331]

We're now up to 15 pages on an unconfirmed rumour which Neeld has apparently tried to quash.

How many pages will there be about a player who is actually delisted?

Oh, I've just started page 16.

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It did get a little bit sidetracked by tucker though.

[DemonDan... 77]

Spot on. To commit to the sort of training loads the top teams (an wannabe top teams) apparently have to undertake takes, i would assume, compete buy in in order to push through the barriers. A player who doesn't get it or doesn't accept the vision is more likely to quit when the going gets really tough and not really put in the hard yards. Certainly that player is more likely not to take on board direction from coaching and fitness staff.

A little line that Neeldy spat out amongst it all, didnt get much fanfare from memory, but has stuck firmly in my mind and is what i'll take from this season..

He said: (roughly)

'What were doing in terms of training / training load right now, is about 40% of what we expect to be doing in 2014.'

Nice.

Or more to the point, what the f@ck was Bailey doing at training? Watching for improvement, or Demanding it??

Why were we only training half as much as the big boys?

On Gysberts,

he missed a chunk of the year with the jaw thing.. had an interupted pre-season from memory and like Blease, will benefit from a full one..

also, he has put on a heap of weight - much more than Morts and in a shorter span of time.. imo, of course.

..I still expect a lot from Gizzy..

[DemonDan... 77]

It did get a little bit sidetracked by tucker though.

Yeah was going to say earlier, this was the 1st time i could remember that such a shite thread - turned good!

but didnt want to remind anyone what a dumb thread it was to begin with..

[dee-luded 2,958]

Yeah was going to say earlier, this was the 1st time i could remember that such a shite thread - turned good!

but didnt want to remind anyone what a dumb thread it was to begin with..

Lets Hope, that it turns out strong for all our List, & either for Gys, to finally step up, Or Step Away. One or the other.

[DemonWA 3,579]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/geelong-could-snare-jared-rivers-and-jordan-gysberts-from-melbourne-demons-in-the-afl-silly-season/story-e6frf3e3-1226471545635

Same rumours, new day!

[Sir Why You Little 35,264]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/geelong-could-snare-jared-rivers-and-jordan-gysberts-from-melbourne-demons-in-the-afl-silly-season/story-e6frf3e3-1226471545635

Same rumours, new day!

I would be most disappointed if Rivers was lost. He is definately required next year. Played well at both ends.

[dee-luded 2,958]

I would be most disappointed if Rivers was lost. He is definately required next year. Played well at both ends.

Try to do a deal.

Rivers (F/A) + Gysberts, for Geelongs 1st Rnd pick (16ish) + Chappy (1+1 $$$ front ended contract)... Experience for Experience + CULTURE exchange.

[beelzebub 22,621]

you cant include Rivers in any deals. FA works OUTSIDE of normal trading/dealing

can we get this clear for all

[Sir Why You Little 35,264]

Correct. The only way we keep Rivers is to match or better any incoming deals.

He is one experienced player who did well under Neeld.

He is needed Melbourne.

[rpfc 27,663]

Try to do a deal.

Rivers (F/A) + Gysberts, for Geelongs 1st Rnd pick (16ish) + Chappy (1+1 $$$ front ended contract)... Experience for Experience + CULTURE exchange.

'Culture exchange' or not, this is impossible - you cannot trade Unrestricted FAs.

EVER.

For any reason.

No!

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

Correct. The only way we keep Rivers is to match or better any incoming deals.

He is one experienced player who did well under Neeld.

He is needed Melbourne.

The only thing I don't understand about free agency is if rivers wants out for Geelong but we then match the Geelong offer but rivers still wants out what happens then?

[Sir Why You Little 35,264]

The only thing I don't understand about free agency is if rivers wants out for Geelong but we then match the Geelong offer but rivers still wants out what happens then?

Pretty sure Geelong win. It is designed to move players.

We must convince Jared to stay.

[dee-luded 2,958]

you cant include Rivers in any deals. FA works OUTSIDE of normal trading/dealing

can we get this clear for all

Thats not what I'm saying Bub, Jared may want to help us. If a package with the Gys is worth it to the Cats.

I wonder if the Hawks are interested in Jared, or the Saints, Freo?

[dee-luded 2,958]

'Culture exchange' or not, this is impossible - you cannot trade Unrestricted FAs.

EVER.

For any reason.

No!

But Jared may still want to choose which club, that may be interested in him? He may look favorably on one particular Club?

[dee-luded 2,958]

The only thing I don't understand about free agency is if rivers wants out for Geelong but we then match the Geelong offer but rivers still wants out what happens then?

We can match & hold a player who is an Restricted Free Agent by matching an offer for that player.

Not for an Unrestricted Free Agent. This player would be Free to go wherever he chooses.

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[Jonesbag 487]

I would like chapman, great player. I dont think we would get him just for Gysberts though. Ergghh I bet after all this Cook and Gysberts will both stay, become stars with a joint brownlow and we immortilise BP outside the MCG

[rpfc 27,663]

But Jared may still want to choose which club, that may be interested in him? He may look favorably on one particular Club?

Huh?

He can sign anywhere for anything.

[beelzebub 22,621]

Huh?

He can sign anywhere for anything.

thats right. Some just dont seem to grasp this FA too well .

[daisycutter 28,712]

you cant include Rivers in any deals. FA works OUTSIDE of normal trading/dealing

can we get this clear for all

I think you will need to repeat it another 1,000 times, sadly, bub

takes a while to settle into some brains around here