Cloke and Collingwood - to part or not to part?

[Range Rover 1,935]

For what it's worth, Greg 'Venom' Denham just said he 'knows for a fact' Travis Cloke doesn't want to come to Melbourne and won't be.

Edited July 26, 2012 by Range Rover

[jumbo returns 6,740]

Fro what it's worth, Greg 'Venom' Denham just said he 'knows for a fact' Travis Cloke doesn't want to come to Melbourne and won't be.

Oh, well - that's it then.

Greggy has spoken.

[rjay 24,889]

"The tom toms are beating very, very strong that the deal is done ... there's no talk coming from management, but in the old days on The Footy Show I might have been walking out rubbing my hands together saying we've got the best story of the year," McGuire said.

Yep Cloke is headed to Carlton, hope you are rubbing your hands together Ed.

[Dr John Dee 1,057]

Oh, well - that's it then.

Greggy has spoken.

I think "for what it's worth" pre-empts your response, doesn't it? But I wonder if there's another question about whether these sorts of rumours have any effect (disinformation etc). I don't get to read the Melbourne press much, so I'm not sure.

Edited July 26, 2012 by Dr John Dee

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

"The tom toms are beating very, very strong that the deal is done ... there's no talk coming from management, but in the old days on The Footy Show I might have been walking out rubbing my hands together saying we've got the best story of the year," McGuire said.

Yep Cloke is headed to Carlton, hope you are rubbing your hands together Ed.

They should announce the deal now so the AFL can investigate their Salary cap straight away. I just got back from the supermarket and asked where the brown bags are and they said they are sold out

[jumbo returns 6,740]

I think "for what it's worth" pre-empts your response, doesn't it? But I wonder if there's another question about whether these sorts of rumours have any effect (disinformation etc). I don't get to read the Melbourne press much, so I'm not sure.

Greggy's struggled to be newsworthy all year - I hoped my sarcasm gushed forth, good doctor

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

Greg is usually spot on though.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/eagles-ready-to-swoop-on-clark-fremantle-bid-could-be-trumped/story-e6frg7mf-1226159629080

[Dr John Dee 1,057]

Greg is usually spot on though.

I guess that's more where my question was going, which if I rephrased it would be: is Denham just an idiot or is he somebody's idiot?

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

I guess that's more where my question was going, which if I rephrased it would be: is Denham just an idiot or is he somebody's idiot?

No he is just an idiot plain and simple.

[Hannibal 5,814]

Who knows whether Denham is right, or not, but Melbourne supporters shouldn't be offended. If I was Cloke there'd be no way I'd consider Melbourne.

Edited July 27, 2012 by Ben-Hur

[beelzebub 23,313]

For what it's worth, Greg 'Venom' Denham just said he 'knows for a fact' Travis Cloke doesn't want to come to Melbourne and won't be.

phew !!!!!!

[thaipantsman 180]

Travis Cloke's camp says no to Collingwood offer of new four-year deal

This cant be good for Collingwood and Travis in particular, despite the spin from NorthBank.

Clark and Cloke with Jurrah thereabouts. Nice!

[thaipantsman 180]

For what it's worth, Greg 'Venom' Denham just said he 'knows for a fact' Travis Cloke doesn't want to come to Melbourne and won't be.

Neither did Clark!

[thaipantsman 180]

"The tom toms are beating very, very strong that the deal is done ... there's no talk coming from management, but in the old days on The Footy Show I might have been walking out rubbing my hands together saying we've got the best story of the year," McGuire said.

Yep Cloke is headed to Carlton, hope you are rubbing your hands together Ed.

Slightly off topic thank our Higher Power we all watch Marngrook and have long given Footy Show (The Six Stooges) the flick.

[Deez 298]

According to SEN this morning, the deal that dees threw at cloke was much more than 800k for five years.

More along the lines of 7 mil over 7 years, which you would think might be enticing.

Although i think it was greg denham suggested cloke wouldn't come to melbourne for 20 mil.

I have a feeling most players might play anywhere for a seven mil seven year contract.

[Pennant St Dee 13,118]

For what it's worth, Greg 'Venom' Denham just said he 'knows for a fact' Travis Cloke doesn't want to come to Melbourne and won't be.

Denham actually said " Why would you go to Melbourne" he knew the offer was 7 million over 7 years but you'd want 20 million to be going to Melbourne KB chimed in then just saying Greg we know you just don't like Melbourne

[rpfc 28,266]

Who knows whether Denham is right, or not, but Melbourne supporters shouldn't be offended. If I was Cloke there'd be no way I'd consider Melbourne.

Although I agree with the overall point of 'we are not an enticing place to come and play' - Denham is talking out of MFC hating arse and doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

Like he would know anything concerning Cloke's intentions.

[jnrmac 20,055]

For what it's worth, Greg 'Venom' Denham just said he 'knows for a fact' Travis Cloke doesn't want to come to Melbourne and won't be.

Best news I have heard today. Cloke is not that good a player and he is less good as a bloke. His Dad is worse. And with our midfield he would starve in the fwd line.

[Hannibal 5,814]

Although I agree with the overall point of 'we are not an enticing place to come and play' - Denham is talking out of MFC hating arse and doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

Like he would know anything concerning Cloke's intentions.

I don't think Denham hates Melbourne at all, I reckon he has simply lost any respect that he may have had for the club. I remember thinking a couple of years ago that he quite liked Melbourne and was even a little too bullish on our prospects. I suspect that there was a tipping point where our ineptness finally annoyed him. Who would have thought ?

Btw, just in case some supporters think that because Clark chose to come to Melbourne, why wouldn't Cloke ? There are a couple of things to consider. Firstly, a year is a long time in footy and 12 months ago we'd just appointed a new coach and along with that comes some 'blue sky' hope; and Cloke is presently at the biggest club in the land, whereas Clark was in a two team town. There are very different dynamics at play. There may have been some appeal for Clark to play in footy mad Melbourne. Trying to sell a future to Clark after these last 12 months may have been far more difficult.

[beelzebub 23,313]

and then ....some of just think Venom's a [censored]...simple as.

Theres losing respect , and theres taking EVERY opportunity to have a shot at us, and he does. Even Desert Head acknowledges Venom hates us.

Im just glad someone does....we need to build on this

[thaipantsman 180]

According to SEN this morning, the deal that dees threw at cloke was much more than 800k for five years.

More along the lines of 7 mil over 7 years, which you would think might be enticing.

Although i think it was greg denham suggested cloke wouldn't come to melbourne for 20 mil.

I have a feeling most players might play anywhere for a seven mil seven year contract.

We have Neeld to entice him. Ex Pie.

[thaipantsman 180]

Best news I have heard today. Cloke is not that good a player and he is less good as a bloke. His Dad is worse. And with our midfield he would starve in the fwd line.

This I don't agree.

Sylvia, Moloney, Jamar, Viney (coming soon) and Trengove(another year older), McK(tagger beautiful) will get it down there.

[Range Rover 1,935]

According to SEN this morning, the deal that dees threw at cloke was much more than 800k for five years.

More along the lines of 7 mil over 7 years, which you would think might be enticing.

Although i think it was greg denham suggested cloke wouldn't come to melbourne for 20 mil.

I have a feeling most players might play anywhere for a seven mil seven year contract.

Incorrect. The 7mil/7year 'offer' was actually refuted by Denham as ever having been made by Melbourne.

Denham actually said " Why would you go to Melbourne" he knew the offer was 7 million over 7 years but you'd want 20 million to be going to Melbourne KB chimed in then just saying Greg we know you just don't like Melbourne

He definitely said he "knows for a fact" Cloke won't come to Melbourne. This was prior to the 7mil/7year bit which he refuted (as I've said above).

He was unequivocal. Cloke won't be a Dee.

So ... to whom do we turn our attention now?

[thaipantsman 180]

For what it's worth, Greg 'Venom' Denham just said he 'knows for a fact' Travis Cloke doesn't want to come to Melbourne and won't be.

Watch Marngrook! Ditch the Footy Show RR. 6 stooges!

[binman 42,690]

and then ....some of just think Venom's a [censored]...simple as.

Theres losing respect , and theres taking EVERY opportunity to have a shot at us, and he does. Even Desert Head acknowledges Venom hates us.

I agree, i heard him this morning and there is a bit of an edge there (i hadn't heard him talk about the dees before). I know part of it is theater and to deliberately wind people up (nothing like angry callers to give a talk back show a bit of fizz) but he was pretty scathing and dismissive in his tone, particularly in his comment that he knows for a fact Cloke not interested in going to the dees (what's his source?)

Seems a bit weird to me to feel such seeming disdain about a footy club. I could understand if he was a player and there was a history there but he is a reporter