I found it amusing that this all went on at Connors house.

Connors lives with Shane Edwards and Edwards 'decided' not to check in with them and toddled off to training getting there on time. Wouldn't any normal person knock on the door and tell them to get the f**k out of bed or be late for training? Unless of course you knew there was no way they would be waking up in a fit state?

maybe shane got to training from a different direction?

I found it amusing that this all went on at Connors house.

Connors lives with Shane Edwards and Edwards 'decided' not to check in with them and toddled off to training getting there on time. Wouldn't any normal person knock on the door and tell them to get the f**k out of bed or be late for training? Unless of course you knew there was no way they would be waking up in a fit state?

Edwards was unable to catch them to let them know.

Everything I hate about football is is on display currently as a result of this Richmond incident. Seriously it's one thing to be passionate about football but the over analysis of the game, purification of players lives and expectations that players behave like robotic saints is getting ridiculous. Yup, they screwed up. They're kids. They didn't beat anyone up or even cause a public scene. They missed a training session. Roughly a quarter of the people denigrating them are probably repressed borderline alcoholics. So what if they both got blasted and took a few sleeping pills. This is hardly a black day for football or even the Richmond football club.

Everything I hate about football is is on display currently as a result of this Richmond incident. Seriously it's one thing to be passionate about football but the over analysis of the game, purification of players lives and expectations that players behave like robotic saints is getting ridiculous. Yup, they screwed up. They're kids. They didn't beat anyone up or even cause a public scene. They missed a training session. Roughly a quarter of the people denigrating them are probably repressed borderline alcoholics. So what if they both got blasted and took a few sleeping pills. This is hardly a black day for football or even the Richmond football club.

Well BDP if you don't want to lead a life of hate maybe you should steer clear of the Internet especially footy forums

Well BDP if you don't want to lead a life of hate maybe you should steer clear of the Internet especially footy forums

Sadly I work for the Department of Broadband and Communications so no chance of that.

Irony!

Sadly I work for the Department of Broadband and Communications so no chance of that.

hmmm that would pose a problem. Lots of stilnox then?

Everything I hate about football is is on display currently as a result of this Richmond incident. Seriously it's one thing to be passionate about football but the over analysis of the game, purification of players lives and expectations that players behave like robotic saints is getting ridiculous. Yup, they screwed up. They're kids. They didn't beat anyone up or even cause a public scene. They missed a training session. Roughly a quarter of the people denigrating them are probably repressed borderline alcoholics. So what if they both got blasted and took a few sleeping pills. This is hardly a black day for football or even the Richmond football club.

I agree. The game is becoming to sanitized. But with huge $$$ involved that is the deal. I hope Connors will be given a chance to sort himself out.

Everything I hate about football is is on display currently as a result of this Richmond incident. Seriously it's one thing to be passionate about football but the over analysis of the game, purification of players lives and expectations that players behave like robotic saints is getting ridiculous. Yup, they screwed up. They're kids. They didn't beat anyone up or even cause a public scene. They missed a training session. Roughly a quarter of the people denigrating them are probably repressed borderline alcoholics. So what if they both got blasted and took a few sleeping pills. This is hardly a black day for football or even the Richmond football club.

BDP rightly or wrongly as part of the job they chose to persue they have higher expectations than other folks along with that comes a hefty salary. My issue with it is sacking one bloke yet the other gun player who's "social issues" (WTF does that mean anyway and how many other players would Caro have gotten stuck into over the years for similar "social issues" but because it is Rich she looks after Martin) Rich has been concerned about gets off with 2 weeks off... pppfffttt the biggest killers in Africa.. HYPO's!

I agree. The game is becoming to sanitized. But with huge $$$ involved that is the deal. I hope Connors will be given a chance to sort himself out.

Hey, WYL are you agreeing to being a repressed borderline alcoholic? LOL

probably a pretty accurate comment too!

If anyone actually believes that it all was "sleeping pills" and the story that goes along with it then I am worried for you and your state of mind.

Hey, WYL are you agreeing to being a repressed borderline alcoholic? LOL

probably a pretty accurate comment too!

I drink and paretake in the odd line of recreation when the moment is right.

Live life to the max. These guys are now programmed robots. How much further can it go??

I drink and paretake in the odd line of recreation when the moment is right.

Live life to the max. These guys are now programmed robots. How much further can it go??

wow!

but what about the agreed-to team rules - unreasonable and therefore ignorable?

trust, team loyalty, priorities - all these things are fundamental to culture aren't they? The ramifications of these guys' actual misdemeanours on the night go well beyond any actual physical or legal damage done, surely?

"How far can it go?" - surely a bit further in context of a football club than in the context of an anonymous individual's private life..

Edited July 5, 201213 yr by robbiefrom13

I drink and paretake in the odd line of recreation when the moment is right.

Live life to the max. These guys are now programmed robots. How much further can it go??

you don't believe it was just sleeping pills and being late for training do you?

i do have sympathy in general for players who become public property on and off the field etc

in the old days it was the opposite with players being protected by the media and the clubs

but i don't understand why so many attract attention deliberately with social media like facebook, twitter etc

It's pretty simple from where I sit. It's a professional sport, act like a professional.

There are members paying money to hopefully one day witness the ultimate success.

There are coaches putting in countless hours to try and develop these guys into the best athletes they can be.

Drinking, taking unnecessary drugs and missing training sessions is letting every down, and you deserve all you get.

These guys get all sorts of sh/t for free on top of the huge salary they earn, glamours hanging off them that wouldn't look twice at them if they were elbow deep fixing your dunny...

So they have to give up the typical Aussie larrikin lifestyle for 10 or so years. That's probably a good thing.

you don't believe it was just sleeping pills and being late for training do you?

i do have sympathy in general for players who become public property on and off the field etc

in the old days it was the opposite with players being protected by the media and the clubs

but i don't understand why so many attract attention deliberately with social media like facebook, twitter etc

I agree DC

I know the parents of a current MFC player.

I am astounded at the life style he is expected to live.

He has not had 1 acholic drink since last september could not even let his hair down on Christmas day.

There is seldom a Day that he is not at the club.

He is out of contract this year and lives the life of a monk to ensure his contract is renewed.

Thinks he is ok but leaves nothing to chance.

Not sure I would want to live his current life style.

I am amazed that people do not understand the internet.

Once you put anything on be it tweeter , face book etc it is there forever for everyone to see.

What is it that people do not understand?

It's pretty simple from where I sit. It's a professional sport, act like a professional.

There are members paying money to hopefully one day witness the ultimate success.

There are coaches putting in countless hours to try and develop these guys into the best athletes they can be.

Drinking, taking unnecessary drugs and missing training sessions is letting every down, and you deserve all you get.

These guys get all sorts of sh/t for free on top of the huge salary they earn, glamours hanging off them that wouldn't look twice at them if they were elbow deep fixing your dunny...

So they have to give up the typical Aussie larrikin lifestyle for 10 or so years. That's probably a good thing.

All of what you say is true DA

But at the end of the day most of them are very young men.

Young men will take risks it is the nature of the beast.

I well remember doing a few stupid things.

Some will make mistakes it is how they develop from that point on that is important.

Obviously Conners never understood.

Perhaps he might now.

Can anyone please list on here what Dustin Martin actually does do, cos there is a lot of conjecture about him smoking, drinking, drugs?

Something?

Can anyone please list on here what Dustin Martin actually does do, cos there is a lot of conjecture about him smoking, drinking, drugs?

Something?

Laws of Libel ??

you don't believe it was just sleeping pills and being late for training do you?

i do have sympathy in general for players who become public property on and off the field etc

in the old days it was the opposite with players being protected by the media and the clubs

but i don't understand why so many attract attention deliberately with social media like facebook, twitter etc

Of course i don't, but a large % of young kids do go hard regularly.

This is why i vehmently oppose the AFL's 3 strike rule. It it short sighted and wrong.

I drink and paretake in the odd line of recreation when the moment is right.

Live life to the max. These guys are now programmed robots. How much further can it go??

Holly [censored]!

All this time I pictured you being a "Darryl Kerrigan" kind of bloke.. turns out you're Disco Stu!

Rock on!

Holly [censored]!

All this time I pictured you being a "Darryl Kerrigan" kind of bloke.. turns out you're Disco Stu!

Rock on!

Disco stu is a champion. So is Snake.."bye...i am going to mexico till this all blows over"..

Edited July 5, 201213 yr by why you little

I drink and paretake in the odd line of recreation when the moment is right.

Haha. There are many lines of communication...

that kid second from the back looks happy to be there