Our Drafting vs Haw in 2000s

[dees64 104]

Our drafting is the cause of our current issues, comparing us against the Hawks who bottomed out & what they picked from 2000-07 approx

Hawthorn

hodge, Mitchell, brown,Sewell, Osborne,Lewis, buddy,

roughead, young,Ellis,birchall, bailey, guerra,gilham, Cyril, whitecross,

Melb

Thompson gone, miller gone Jolly gone, jamar,rivers,Brock gone, Davey,

Sylvia ,bate, Dunn, warnock gone,newton gone, jones, Buckley gone , batram,

frawley, petered , garland, Morton, grimes, Maric gone, Cheney gone,

Martin

Our drafting as been very poor & we failed to recruit & build a core list of 10-12 players who are now together & are A graders when you compare to the Hawks the gap is so big & people are wishing for a flag & finals.......

Not blaming current admin or footy dpt but wtf wre they doing!

So what you draft now will set you up in 6-10 yrs

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

this years draft, taking into consideration the most likely low ladder result and draft picks, is extremely extremely important. We cannot screw this one up.

[monoccular 17,656]

64 - that is a pretty damning comparison: drafting vs development is hard to say, but the club as a whole has certainly done very badly by comparison.

Lets hope that the recruiters (whoever they may be) can get it right this year and that the current coaching / development panel despite their current pressure and woes bring whoever is picked along a lot better than in the past.

A huge challenge for all involved.

[Biffen 12,949]

Our drafting is the cause of our current issues, comparing us against the Hawks who bottomed out & what they picked from 2000-07 approx

Hawthorn

hodge, Mitchell, brown,Sewell, Osborne,Lewis, buddy,

roughead, young,Ellis,birchall, bailey, guerra,gilham, Cyril, whitecross,

Melb

Thompson gone, miller gone Jolly gone, jamar,rivers,Brock gone, Davey,

Sylvia ,bate, Dunn, warnock gone,newton gone, jones, Buckley gone , batram,

frawley, petered , garland, Morton, grimes, Maric gone, Cheney gone,

Martin

Our drafting as been very poor & we failed to recruit & build a core list of 10-12 players who are now together & are A graders when you compare to the Hawks the gap is so big & people are wishing for a flag & finals.......

Not blaming current admin or footy dpt but wtf wre they doing!

So what you draft now will set you up in 6-10 yrs

Can we get Newton back?

[dees64 104]

Very sad our pick 3&5 in 03 Brock gone & cant get a game & Sylvia does not care!

They should have been our leaders & Generals of the midfield along with Moloney, setting the std for Trengove, etc instead the latter is the leader!

Maybe one day they will look at this & say what a missed opportunity & shake their heads in disgust!

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Very sad our pick 3&5 in 03 Brock gone & cant get a game & Sylvia does not care!

They should have been our leaders & Generals of the midfield along with Moloney, setting the std for Trengove, etc instead the latter is the leader!

Maybe one day they will look at this & say what a missed opportunity & shake their heads in disgust!

Wasn't a great year for talent - Cooney's done okay....Farren Ray? Kane Tenace? Kepler Bradley? Walker?

I don't rate 2003 at all.

[dees64 104]

Wasn't a great year for talent - Cooney's done okay....Farren Ray? Kane Tenace? Kepler Bradley? Walker?

I don't rate 2003 at all.

Wasn't a great year for talent - Cooney's done okay....Farren Ray? Kane Tenace? Kepler Bradley? Walker?

I don't rate 2003 at all.

Yeah true but my point is I would be happy if they were our leaders & hard workers, maybe not absolute A graders but u always had crack & desire

[rhaz 342]

I dont get it. You list ALL the players we have recruited and highlighted those who are gone. Yet you dont do the same for the Hawks?

Thorp (2 games) and Dowler (16) - both taken with PICK 6 in the 2005/06 drafts - they're gone. Ellis, PICK 3, cant get a game in their senior side and has always been flaky. Brown, Muston, Tuck, Renouf, Dawson, Jarryd Morton - all are gone (plus a bunch of others i've never heard of).

Just thought if you were gonna take shots at our club like everyone else you should at least do it right.

[Mono 455]

Very sad our pick 3&5 in 03 Brock gone & cant get a game & Sylvia does not care!

They should have been our leaders & Generals of the midfield along with Moloney, setting the std for Trengove, etc instead the latter is the leader!

Maybe one day they will look at this & say what a missed opportunity & shake their heads in disgust!

2003 was the worst draft in more than a decade. just our luck to have 2 low picks

I dont get it. You list ALL the players we have recruited and highlighted those who are gone. Yet you dont do the same for the Hawks?

Thorp (2 games) and Dowler (16) - both taken with PICK 6 in the 2005/06 drafts - they're gone. Ellis, PICK 3, cant get a game in their senior side and has always been flaky. Brown, Muston, Tuck, Renouf, Dawson, Jarryd Morton - all are gone (plus a bunch of others i've never heard of).

Just thought if you were gonna take shots at our club like everyone else you should at least do it right.

Well said. Topic should be removed. Hawks have had many bad misses. Lucked in in a couple of drafts.

[dees64 104]

I dont get it. You list ALL the players we have recruited and highlighted those who are gone. Yet you dont do the same for the Hawks?

Thorp (2 games) and Dowler (16) - both taken with PICK 6 in the 2005/06 drafts - they're gone. Ellis, PICK 3, cant get a game in their senior side and has always been flaky. Brown, Muston, Tuck, Renouf, Dawson, Jarryd Morton - all are gone (plus a bunch of others i've never heard of).

Just thought if you were gonna take shots at our club like everyone else you should at least do it right.

I dont get it. You list ALL the players we have recruited and highlighted those who are gone. Yet you dont do the same for the Hawks?

Thorp (2 games) and Dowler (16) - both taken with PICK 6 in the 2005/06 drafts - they're gone. Ellis, PICK 3, cant get a game in their senior side and has always been flaky. Brown, Muston, Tuck, Renouf, Dawson, Jarryd Morton - all are gone (plus a bunch of others i've never heard of).

Just thought if you were gonna take shots at our club like everyone else you should at least do it right.

My point is look at the current players that are at Melb vs Haw from that period & it shows how poor our recruitment was.

Not taking shots stating facts!

Hawks won a flag & we cant win a game!

[dees64 104]

2003 was the worst draft in more than a decade. just our luck to have 2 low picks

Well said. Topic should be removed. Hawks have had many bad misses. Lucked in in a couple of drafts.

2003 was the worst draft in more than a decade. just our luck to have 2 low picks

Well said. Topic should be removed. Hawks have had many bad misses. Lucked in in a couple of drafts.

Recruiting is not all luck, its about identifying correct talent & yes the Hawks like all teams have players who dont make, its just we continue not to get it wrong.

Is Geelong lucky,or West Coast,Essendon,Coll etc......