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[Rhino Richards 1,467]

1. But Dunn and Couch play the same roles? Hardly mate. Pretty sure Dunn runs along the wing alot as does Morton,

I said Dunn and Morton play different roles. Dunn was played up forward when subbed on in junk time.

difference is Dunn is not scared of the ball, the opposition, the crowd, seagulls....

jumper punching must draw big points in your neck of the woods. Dont let it trick that Dunn is not timid.

2. Ahhhhh he leads the way when you compare him to the rest of our players at the moment though, still our best chance of laying a tackle anywhere in the forward half

The opponent better be standing right beside or in front of him because he does not chase.

I think you misinterpret me.

....

I was referring to fumbles McDonald, aka Joel.

Agreed and apologies. Joelmac did come to mind. Dont think he will make the 22.

[stuie 7,374]

1. I said Dunn and Morton play different roles. Dunn was played up forward when subbed on in junk time.

2. jumper punching must draw big points in your neck of the woods. Dont let it trick that Dunn is not timid.

3. The opponent better be standing right beside or in front of him because he does not chase.

1. Yeah I get it mate, I was stating that Couch and Morton play different roles too, hence highlighting why I didn't understand someone saying a particular player would keep another player out of the team when they play a different role at the expense of another player who plays a different role etc etc....

2. Actually at the moment it does! See anyone from MFC being physical enough? See anyone stand up for Grimes when polaxed? See anyone being the aggressor rather than the timid apologetic wuss? On current form and history I would play Dunn EVERY DAY of the week ahead of Morton. We're done with playing players on potential and draft order aren't we?

3. Riiiiiiiight... So our best inside 50 tackler doesn't chase but others do? Not seeing he'e the best chaser ever but he's pretty close to number one for our team on it's current efforts

[daisycutter 29,731]

I said Dunn and Morton play different roles. Dunn was played up forward when subbed on in junk time.

jumper punching must draw big points in your neck of the woods. Dont let it trick that Dunn is not timid.

The opponent better be standing right beside or in front of him because he does not chase.

Agreed and apologies. Joelmac did come to mind. Dont think he will make the 22.

I still have a feeling couch will play

[Jaded No More 68,972]

Please for the love of god let's win this one.

[old dee 23,871]

I still have a feeling couch will play

So do I DC

I said the following elsewhere

WE recruited the kid, then upgraded him from the rookie list.

He has put in some good games at Casey

We have lost the first three games by an average 10 goals

Been belted in the mid field every week.

Why hell would we not play him this week.

What are we waiting for?

[old dee 23,871]

Please for the love of god let's win this one.

I think he hates the dees Jaded we from the underworld you know

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

On current form and history I would play Dunn EVERY DAY of the week ahead of Morton. We're done with playing players on potential and draft order aren't we?

3. Riiiiiiiight... So our best inside 50 tackler doesn't chase but others do? Not seeing he'e the best chaser ever but he's pretty close to number one for our team on it's current efforts

Dunn was pick 14 and has had 8 years on the list. I guess you were done playing players on potential arent we?

Take it up with the Club on Petterd. They might learn something from you or conversely....

I still have a feeling couch will play

Its a hair split.

Playing Magner, Couch and Moloney together gives me an impression of ssllooww.

Here's a thought Moloney pulls up sore pre match and they play Couch......might be insurance.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Would have thought Dunn would keep Morton out not Couch

Without question....

Although, this is the MFC we're talking about. So i'm pretty sure Dunn will still keep Couch out...with Morton offering such 'potential' amazing closing speed, sure handling, super agility and great tackling skills....as well as brute strength in the contested footy stakes, he can't be overlooked and should be given as many chances as needed to prove himself i reckon

[Arrow 1,257]

Dunn was pick 14 and has had 8 years on the list. I guess you were done playing players on potential arent we?

Take it up with the Club on Petterd. They might learn something from you or conversely....

Its a hair split.

Playing Magner, Couch and Moloney together gives me an impression of ssllooww.

Here's a thought Moloney pulls up sore pre match and they play Couch......might be insurance.

Well played!

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

1. But Dunn and Couch play the same roles? Hardly mate. Pretty sure Dunn runs along the wing alot as does Morton, difference is Dunn is not scared of the ball, the opposition, the crowd, seagulls....

2. Ahhhhh he leads the way when you compare him to the rest of our players at the moment though, still our best chance of laying a tackle anywhere in the forward half

Totally agree. Doesn't lay many but he's one of the few that does....and not only that....when he does he at least sticks a decent tackle, unlike most others in our forward line such as Green, Petterd, Davey, Watts and Martin (when they're in there) who often get brushed aside in the tackle or lay a neck high tackle (which doesn't involve too much body on body.....soft way out IMO). Maybe Howe the only other who's able to actually get his hands on the opposition and stick a decent tackle in the forward line recently.

Not only that, if you watch Dunn's bodywork and positioning in the forward line, he has an ok read on the play and a very capable contested mark using his body pretty well in the contest. With the exception of Clark, uses the limited opportunities given in our forward line reasonably well compared to our other non-existent/inconsistent forwards. And no i'm not saying Dunn's the answer up forward long term, nor a stellar performer for us in a comparative sense to other club's top forwards by any means. But, until we find someone better....he's a must have. And as i've said many times before, one of the few players who can kick a roost goal from 50 or just outside in the team from a set shot. There's few others who can apart from Howe and Jones. He also doesn't take any crap....which doesn't make anyone an automatic "in" i realise, but at least he gives back as good as he gets. Downside is he's pretty slow paced and sluggish as forwards go but then he has plenty of mates lol.

Edited April 19, 2012 by Rusty Nails

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Dunn was pick 14 and has had 8 years on the list. I guess you were done playing players on potential arent we?

Take it up with the Club on Petterd. They might learn something from you or conversely....

Its a hair split.

Playing Magner, Couch and Moloney together gives me an impression of ssllooww.

Here's a thought Moloney pulls up sore pre match and they play Couch......might be insurance.

We are slow .....or bumbling....regardless of who we put in there ATM....with the exception of Jones maybe. You've left Jones out and i realise he's being used on the ball a fair bit as well but i feel he can offer us something of a pace change up if used well. Not saying he's super quick but his agility, burst speed and quicker/more precise decision making (ie., quick kick into the forward 50 if needed) is a rung or 2 above the other 3 atm.

I'd rather hit the opposition hard with tough hard nosed mids through the middle anyway at this point (given what's on offer for us as an alternative right now... ie., pretty much Zilch!) and stick it to them in the body on body with these three plus Jonesy rotating, than get smacked both on the inside and outside as we are at present having hulks like Morton running through there or Tappy/Trenners who have absolutely no idea in the middle (lost sheep). We need someone with genuine pace/agility/speed/clean/quick ball handling for sure....but until we uncover them, we gotta stop the bleeding and give our boys a slightly better chance to stem the flow....and give our defense a bit more time to set up....and a decent rest once in a while. Our defense is getting pummeled every week due to our crap performance in the middle (among other crap performances around the ground lol) atm.

Edited April 19, 2012 by Rusty Nails

[rpfc 28,762]

Happy to have a slow midfield if they are a hard-running, hard-working midfield.

[Range Rover 1,935]

I would love to see them pull the trigger on Fitzy over Sellar in this game.

With Lake out and the Dogs blooding Ayce Cordy, it's a real chance to see what he can do on the big stage.

[DeeSpencer 26,079]

I would love to see them pull the trigger on Fitzy over Sellar in this game.

With Lake out and the Dogs blooding Ayce Cordy, it's a real chance to see what he can do on the big stage.

I don't look at it for a Fitzy up forward point of view, I'm not sure he's up to that yet, but as an opportunity to play Fitzy in the ruck and let Jamar play forward it's a real option. Big Russian would be hard to beat if isolated deep considering they have to take care of Clark as well.

So from my point of view I'd be playing whichever of Fitzy or Sellar offers you the best option in the ruck, which may well be Fitzy. He rucked ok in the nab cup and is doing well in the VFL, where as Sellar doesn't look like much of a ruckman, although he's a handier forward than Fitzy at this stage.

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

I don't look at it for a Fitzy up forward point of view, I'm not sure he's up to that yet, but as an opportunity to play Fitzy in the ruck and let Jamar play forward it's a real option. Big Russian would be hard to beat if isolated deep considering they have to take care of Clark as well.

So from my point of view I'd be playing whichever of Fitzy or Sellar offers you the best option in the ruck, which may well be Fitzy. He rucked ok in the nab cup and is doing well in the VFL, where as Sellar doesn't look like much of a ruckman, although he's a handier forward than Fitzy at this stage.

If Moloney comes back in you'd have to go with Jamar in the ruck at least for the first little while to see if they can regain some of their form from the last couple of seasons. Try Fitz up forward for a bit and he and Jamar can switch it up when Jamar needs a rest, etc.

Also is it just me or does Fitzy look like a baby giraffe learning to walk?

[Nasher 33,617]

Agreed and apologies. Joelmac did come to mind. Dont think he will make the 22.

Don't apologise. That's not the way Joel Macdonald's name is spelt, and by three seasons only the plain lazy haven't worked it out.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

We are slow .....or bumbling....regardless of who we put in there ATM....with the exception of Jones maybe. You've left Jones out and i realise he's being used on the ball a fair bit as well but i feel he can offer us something of a pace change up if used well. Not saying he's super quick but his agility, burst speed and quicker/more precise decision making (ie., quick kick into the forward 50 if needed) is a rung or 2 above the other 3 atm.

And thats why I left Jones out. You are right he aint quick but he aint as slow as the others.

I would love to see them pull the trigger on Fitzy over Sellar in this game.

With Lake out and the Dogs blooding Ayce Cordy, it's a real chance to see what he can do on the big stage.

Its a good point about the Dogs. On paper they dont look much. In reality we look worse.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,909]

Not only that, if you watch Dunn's bodywork and positioning in the forward line, he has an ok read on the play and a very capable contested mark using his body pretty well in the contest.

I think Dunn positions OK when the ball is coming into the forward 50. But he appears to me to have no idea where to go when the ball is on its way out. Once again, a player who doesn't read defence. Whether it's his own deficiency or that of his coaches I remain unsure but I think it's the latter, because he's not alone in that regard.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

I think Dunn positions OK when the ball is coming into the forward 50. But he appears to me to have no idea where to go when the ball is on its way out. Once again, a player who doesn't read defence. Whether it's his own deficiency or that of his coaches I remain unsure but I think it's the latter, because he's not alone in that regard.

Agreed. The opposition has to be pretty close when they take possession....or of a similar pace for Dunn or pretty much anyone in our forward 50 to lay a tackle lol. Not too much closing speed around them there 'Demonland' hills atm in a general sense eh

[rpfc 28,762]

Bench: Couch, Dunn, Morton, and Sellar.

E: Fitz, Petterd, and MacDonald.

[stuie 7,374]

1.Dunn was pick 14 and has had 8 years on the list. I guess you were done playing players on potential arent we?

2.Take it up with the Club on Petterd. They might learn something from you or conversely....

1.Ummmm what does his draft order have to do with anything? All I'm saying is forgetting potential, draft order etc Dunn is at the moment a MUCH better player than Morton.

2.Why would I need to do that? I think RIcky is doing okay, not quite at his potential at the moment, but very few are right now.

[Guest José Mourinho]

Bench: Couch, Dunn, Morton, and Sellar.

E: Fitz, Petterd, and MacDonald.

No Petterd?

Funny, when I think of Josh Kennedy-like players (i.e. someone who wasn't getting a game, who would be a great target for poaching) I can't come up with too many across the league, but I reckon Ricky would be one.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

And thats why I left Jones out. You are right he aint quick but he aint as slow as the others.

Hec....had to have a Jim Beam and lie down after that one. Was expecting a classic RR bake prior to opening

Watching this mid field, especially versus some of what else is on offer in the 8 etc, i dunno. I reckon we had it better when Wells and Alves were running round there in the 70's lol. Probably my memory is shot... but it just feels real bad atm. Can you remember a period when we were in such a state yourself? Not saying we've ever had amazing set ups but jeez.... pretty soul destroying atm,

Edited April 20, 2012 by Rusty Nails

[jumbo returns 6,741]

I reckon Ricky Pettard is at the crossroads.

He will need to get fitter and go hard in the forward press. Like most players on our list, he's still learning this craft and positioning, but it doesn't preclude him from the chase and tackle.

Something, that I feel, has dropped away in the last couple of years.

[mrtwister 652]

I've read in a few places that Tapscott has been predominantly training with the midfield group. He stepped in the square on the odd occasion last week. May get more time there as he gains a little more endurance throughout the season.

Edited April 20, 2012 by mrtwister