May I ask why you bothered with your first post if your unwilling to actually reveal what you know?

Only that it concerns me that that sort of thing goes on. Not unwilling, just cant post here.

Only that it concerns me that that sort of thing goes on. Not unwilling, just cant post here.

Who's to say it does, considering anyone who might have such knowledge is totally unwilling to divulge it, but not unwilling enough to avoid bringing it up in the first place?

Only that it concerns me that that sort of thing goes on. Not unwilling, just cant post here.

What was said has basically slandered many MFC players, with zero evidence or explanation.

It is a silly thing to mention / throw into the public domain without an explanation imo

What was said has basically slandered many MFC players, with zero evidence or explanation.

It is a silly thing to mention / throw into the public domain without an explanation imo

OK, so we know who the leadership group were this year. We can break it down from there. Green, Moloney, Davey, Rivers, Grimes and Jones. Since he specifically mentions the leadership group as being the bullies, it has to be down to these. He has also said that while the initial post implies Jones is involved, this is not in fact the case. Grimes is unlikely to be the culprit as he is one of the younger players himself. Now we have four. If we're talking about muscling up and fitness, then Davey is out of the equation also, but this is more speculative.

I'm wondering if Moloney is not the target here. He leads a yearly boxing trip for the young players, so there is definitely an element of "beating up" to him. He is a hulk-like individual, hence the muscling up angle. There was an incident early in the year in which he got stuck into Davis for am infraction on the training track during a drill, although I don't think anyone knows the details of exactly what happened or what was said.

Am I getting close WWS?

An Idiot abroad- GOLD! Karl Pilkington is my idol he has the most twisted view on everything, he is a comic genius without meaning it.

Just watched Series 2 Episode 6 - it was on in the UK recently so .....................................

A brilliant episode and you will NEVER view Karl in the same way again . Can't give away any clues why .

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Karl Pilkington is a genius.

What number would he like too wear?

What number would he like too wear?

Dunno , but there used to be a John Pilkington on our list in the early 70's - and he wore no.31 believe it or not - never played a game !

Dunno , but there used to be a John Pilkington on our list in the early 70's - and he wore no.31 believe it or not - never played a game !

There really is something not right about that number 31....Jesse Pinkman in BB season 4 looks very like the last guy who wore 31 after he takes a haircut!!!

Just watched Series 2 Episode 6 - it was on in the UK recently so .....................................

A brilliant episode and you will NEVER view Karl in the same way again . Can't give away any clues why .

Saw it, don't worry I'm all over that! The whale watching one did it for me.. seeing him so sick on the boat couldn't stop laughing at him dry-reaching lol

OK, so we know who the leadership group were this year. We can break it down from there. Green, Moloney, Davey, Rivers, Grimes and Jones. Since he specifically mentions the leadership group as being the bullies, it has to be down to these. He has also said that while the initial post implies Jones is involved, this is not in fact the case. Grimes is unlikely to be the culprit as he is one of the younger players himself. Now we have four. If we're talking about muscling up and fitness, then Davey is out of the equation also, but this is more speculative.

I'm wondering if Moloney is not the target here. He leads a yearly boxing trip for the young players, so there is definitely an element of "beating up" to him. He is a hulk-like individual, hence the muscling up angle. There was an incident early in the year in which he got stuck into Davis for am infraction on the training track during a drill, although I don't think anyone knows the details of exactly what happened or what was said.

Am I getting close WWS?

Well deduced.

Well WWS?

PS. Can the people droning on about TV shows do so elsewhere?

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I dont post stuff like this normally, I usually know better, and no Moloney is not a target,....(Id forgotten about that, but good point) Nor is any individual as I don't have that information.....I am merely talking about bullying to younger players a little like what some of you are trying to do to my post. Maybe its just a bloke thing??.... Maybe its not even a real bad thing?? .... Young players come into a club and are obviously set standards they must adhere too and are then informed by more seasoned players how to go about this. What I was concerned about was the way that is translated and if it is actually a problem, hence my question to the coach and perhaps someone else may say if they heard anything similar??.....What I will say that it came from a fitness coach (not the club) of one of the younger players....Its nothing new, been going on for quite a while. But you know, maybe when you hear something like that its good to put it onto a forum.

I think that behaviour is standard.

I'm told by a bloke at work who is good friends with Melksham, that Mark McVeigh is a complete [censored] and all the young players hate him, because from day dot he comes out and takes any opportunity to smash them when they're not looking on the training track. Really hurt them for no particular reason.

He's a proper ****.

But the net result is that the kids get tougher and understand they're playing a man's game. It sets the tone from the very start.

I don't hold Essendon's leadership methods up as a paragon of best practice, but I think that it would be a common theme amongst all clubs to have certain players dishing out that treatment.

I think that behaviour is standard.

I'm told by a bloke at work who is good friends with Melksham, that Mark McVeigh is a complete [censored] and all the young players hate him, because from day dot he comes out and takes any opportunity to smash them when they're not looking on the training track. Really hurt them for no particular reason.

He's a proper ****.

But the net result is that the kids get tougher and understand they're playing a man's game. It sets the tone from the very start.

I don't hold Essendon's leadership methods up as a paragon of best practice, but I think that it would be a common theme amongst all clubs to have certain players dishing out that treatment.

Exactly Lutz...well put....thats what I thought. All I was trying to say really, because earlier in the year people were saying perhaps all is not well within the group and maybe this sort of thing was one reason why.....