I can't recall acquiring much in any trade period over the last little while. But refresh my memory if you can think of anyone?!

I think that Beamer is the only player on our list that we have got through trades. Joel Mac was PSD so he doesn't count. Is there anyone else?

i don't think we've been able to get any decent overpaid players since the 70's which forced the MFC to be booted from the MCC...Can anyone see a pattern? I can't.

That does not compute.

It was a saying from many years ago; bigger than Ben-Hur a film that when it came out was a massive production with a cast of thousands.

I think that Beamer is the only player on our list that we have got through trades. Joel Mac was PSD so he doesn't count. Is there anyone else?

Nobody on the current list. Do the picks we got in return for players traded by us count? Jack Grimes was who we got out of trading Travis Johnstone to Brisbane. And we can not forget Jordy Gysberts for Brock McLean.

John Meesen (as far as I can recall) is the last AFL experienced player to come to us via a trade.

Edited October 12, 201114 yr by caddypgt

It was a saying from many years ago; bigger than Ben-Hur a film that when it came out was a massive production with a cast of thousands.

Robbief how sad is it that you have to explain that one.

God I am getting old!

I can't recall acquiring much in any trade period over the last little while. But refresh my memory if you can think of anyone?!

I think we are agreeing with each other. The picks for Trav and Brock were great but again I refer to a player we got in trade week who improved our list. I can't think of anyone either.

Can you blame him? Who have we got in trade week in the last few years as a great trade for us. I said who, not what ( the Brock pick was great and the MFC deserves credit for that).

In the last 4 years we have been more focused on rebuilding through youth and the club was offloading players for picks so of course we didn't get much...

... granted that this is likely to make us less appealing to players in trade week.

Edited October 12, 201114 yr by Oucher

I think that Beamer is the only player on our list that we have got through trades. Joel Mac was PSD so he doesn't count. Is there anyone else?

And he was for the pick that we got for losing Scott Thompson, we are behind on that deal.

Nobody on the current list. Do the picks we got in return for players traded by us count? Jack Grimes was who we got out of trading Travis Johnstone to Brisbane. And we can not forget Jordy Gysberts for Brock McLean.

John Meesen (as far as I can recall) is the last AFL experienced player to come to us via a trade.

Byron Pickett before him.

Byron Pickett before him.

Thanks Robbie, another who was short term, 1 year and then useless.

I can't recall acquiring much in any trade period over the last little while. But refresh my memory if you can think of anyone?!

You really would have to go back to Jeff White IMO. Cant think of others

Thanks Robbie, another who was short term, 1 year and then useless.

I thought aside from 8 to 10 games, I thought Pickett was overweight, unprofessional and useless.

It was a saying from many years ago; bigger than Ben-Hur a film that when it came out was a massive production with a cast of thousands.

I'm well aware of the saying.

I think we are agreeing with each other. The picks for Trav and Brock were great but again I refer to a player we got in trade week who improved our list. I can't think of anyone either.

Peter Vardy was the last recruit who really improved our list IMO

Would Lisle play the role that we selected Cook for? If so what does the future hold for him?

No one touched this RobbieF

Lisle plays 2012 and Cook 2014.

Well I think that would be the theory.

Where does Fitzpatrick fit?

No one touched this RobbieF

Lisle plays 2012 and Cook 2014.

Well I think that would be the theory.

Where does Fitzpatrick fit?

Lisle could come straight in next season and in 2013 you'd look at rotating all 3 depending on injuries etc.

I'm well aware of the saying.

Well, you stated: "He's big, strong, and a great mark. He needs to find consistency, but should be coming into his own. I endorse him as a potential recruit." - now does the "is he bigger than you, Ben?" comment make sense?

Saw Lisle play a bit in his junior years (his year 12 really) and didn't rate him at all. He shows glimpses of potential but never really dominated a game, even in the APS competition where he should have looked a class above. He's done nothing to show me otherwise since he got drafted. Would be pretty disappointed if we picked him up

Saw Lisle play a bit in his junior years (his year 12 really) and didn't rate him at all. He shows glimpses of potential but never really dominated a game, even in the APS competition where he should have looked a class above. He's done nothing to show me otherwise since he got drafted. Would be pretty disappointed if we picked him up

My concern is the hawks tradtionally don't give much away.

They have a preputation for getting good players and giving away average players or ones past their prime.

If they want to trade Lisle I am instantly on guard.

My concern is the hawks tradtionally don't give much away.

They have a preputation for getting good players and giving away average players or ones past their prime.

If they want to trade Lisle I am instantly on guard.

Nobody trades away big key position players if they are any good!! This guy is their version of Warnock, only younger and slightly more coordinated. Hawthorn has made an art form out of trading away spuds and making their new clubs think they have won lotto!!

Nobody trades away big key position players if they are any good!! This guy is their version of Warnock, only younger and slightly more coordinated. Hawthorn has made an art form out of trading away spuds and making their new clubs think they have won lotto!!

until round 1

if it ends up being a 3rd round pick for him then so be it cant harm too much, but if anything higher ... sake why not get games into Fitzpatrick & Cook and see if they are going to have what it takes at AFL level. Still think Cook if he gets a body will be a good player just needs bit of time as most tall kids do.

Heffernan?

Ellis?

Read?

Turley?

Powell?

Not great, were they?

Heffernan?

Ellis?

Read?

Turley?

Powell?

Not great, were they?

But we got some good ones Cattogio, Gallagher and a couple of duds from Essendon who escape my mind at the moment.

Turley was the best, he was about 32 when we recruited him in a trade for Andy Lovell who went on to have a pretty good career with West Coast whereas Turls lasted 1 year with us.