That's hyperbole.

Bate had a very good start to his career.

He hasn't kicked on, but don't rewrite history.

Nah mate it aint hyperbole, just my opinion, its only hyperbole as it dont align with your views.

Stand by my post, Howe has shown more in 3 matches than Bate has in his career.

Bate is simply a hit up forward with a booming left foot.

Happy to admit Bate has played some good footy for the Dees, had a cracking QB match a few years back, plus I think he finished 4th in a B&F but Howe is a natural footballer, Bate is a battler.

Does anyone know why it took so long for him to break into the firsts?

You'd think he'd absolutely kill 'em in the VFL. Was he injured for a while?

Might Lucas Cook step up as easily?

How'd he go for Casey today?

Nah mate it aint hyperbole, just my opinion, its only hyperbole as it dont align with your views.

Stand by my post, Howe has shown more in 3 matches than Bate has in his career.

Bate is simply a hit up forward with a booming left foot.

Happy to admit Bate has played some good footy for the Dees, had a cracking QB match a few years back, plus I think he finished 4th in a B&F but Howe is a natural footballer, Bate is a battler.

I know what you mean - Howe looks like a footballer.

But Bate had a a very good start to his career.

There is a lot of work ahead of Jeremy to avoid a similar fate.

I know what you mean - Howe looks like a footballer.

But Bate had a a very good start to his career.

There is a lot of work ahead of Jeremy to avoid a similar fate.

Yeah mate for sure, you do get enticed by young talent, remember thinking how good Brad Green and Cam Bruce were gunna be after their 2000 final series, n whilst both have had very good careers you cant help but think they fell short of our lofty expectations.

One thing is for certain is that once you get a bit of a rep in the league teams start paying a bit more attention to you. The great ones handle this extra attention and develop more facets to their game. I hope Howe is a great.

I must admit I wasn't overly enthused initially when we drafted Howe. "Why take a mature age, midsized forward that nobody's heard of with an early pick" I wondered to myself. Shows how little I know!

He has been fantastic. Still a long way to go, but he possesses the tools to make it. Pretty much puts an end to Bate's career at Melbourne.

I must admit I wasn't overly enthused initially when we drafted Howe. "Why take a mature age, midsized forward that nobody's heard of with an early pick" I wondered to myself. Shows how little I know!

He has been fantastic. Still a long way to go, but he possesses the tools to make it. Pretty much puts an end to Bate's career at Melbourne.

I thought the same thing. But Howe isn't just a mid sized forward who could use his height, he's a genuine marker of the ball and a genuine footballer. I'm very happy with him now.

Before the start of the year I was wondering if we were going to unearth some more talent this year, and in Tapscott, Howe, Nicholson, Gawn and Evans I think we've done pretty well.

Turn him into a J Riewoldt-esque marking forward. He'd be as good as Riewoldt at it, seriously.

Also love to see a player who has great agility and no problem to turn onto and use his left foot!

Howe, Cook, Watts, Jurrah, Sylvia all in the same forward line next season is pretty exciting.

Howie's playing a great role at the club hitting up and presenting on the half forward line. He's playing very well for a third gamer. Always makes it a contest.

totally agree, breath of fresh air to have a reliable player in our 50m arc. Watts is becoming reliable and sylvia is spending time in attack. We're starting to look the goods up there again

also great profile pick. Vampira \m/

As well as the obvious ie marking, kicking both feet etc, I like his work rate when he hasn't got the ball especially his shepherding and leading.

A quality all round forward in the making.

I really like this quote:

''He's unbelievable - you can just kick it anywhere near him and he'll make the kicker look good,'' Stefan Martin said of Howe.

Certainly doesn't hurt considering our delivery sometimes.

He's quite possibly single-handedly killed off the careers of both Bate and Dunn at the MFC.

He's quite possibly single-handedly killed off the careers of both Bate and Dunn at the MFC.

Not the craziest call i've ever heard.

His first 3 games and he's already better than Bate and Dunn have ever been

He's quite possibly single-handedly killed off the careers of both Bate and Dunn at the MFC.

Bate, Dunn and Newton... thats the 2004 draft

Quote from The Age:

''He's unbelievable - you can just kick it anywhere near him and he'll make the kicker look good,'' Stefan Martin said of Howe.

Looks like his teammates are getting to know what he can do. He's fitting in very nicely.

Bate, Dunn and Newton... thats the 2004 draft

I think Juice may have killed his own career tbh

Howe is a really exciting prospect.

He doesn't have the X-factor of Jurrah, but he works hard to find the footy and uses the ball well.

I think it makes it even more difficult for Bate to crack into the team.

Howe is a really exciting prospect.

He doesn't have the X-factor of Jurrah, but he works hard to find the footy and uses the ball well.

I think it makes it even more difficult for Bate to crack into the team.

Agreed. Howe gives us everything Bate's meant to give us, plus more.

Bate's career with Melbourne is surely over.

Howe about that!!!! Nice. I'm taking everything a week at a time though. Sorry for the cliche' but it was a pretty deleted Freo, and at the G lol

Can you lose the font, it makes your posts almost unreadable

Bate, Dunn and Newton... thats the 2004 draft

Poses the question then.... which draft was better for us?

2004- Bate dunn newton

OR

2009- Scully,Trengove,Gysberts,Tapscott

Thoughts???

Poses the question then.... which draft was better for us?

2004- Bate dunn newton

OR

2009- Scully,Trengove,Gysberts,Tapscott

Thoughts???

Is it posing a rhetorical question?

Poses the question then.... which draft was better for us?

2004- Bate dunn newton

OR

2009- Scully,Trengove,Gysberts,Tapscott

Thoughts???

And don't forget the Max Factor!

Man, he makes our forward line look so much better.

21 possessions, 12 marks of which 3 were contested and 2 goals today.

For a third gamer that is some seriously impressive stuff. He's going to play a really important part in our premiership aspirations.

Yep-- It is a pity you or I haven't got him in our Ultimate footy team-RFPC has- and since gaining him has reached the 8.He is going to become a very handy player whom is allot more flexible than Robbo.Could play HBF, Wing, small/Mid/Tall forward..Great gain.

Is it posing a rhetorical question?

I hope so