A great talent, but I get the horrible impression he seems to play for himself rather than for the team.

Ah, the old "I'm not happy with the way a player is playing but don't know the reason why, so I'll make up one and assassinate his character in the process" trick. Well done.

Cale has put on 10kg since joining the Dees, still only at 89 or something, but can see him getting to where he needs to be 93ish i would think.....

Then he will actually be quite a unit if he looks in the mirror and is prepared to use it, wouldnt mind knowing what Goddard weighs.... and after looking is 93, might get there within another pre season and might take off.... without injury etc

Any chance he'll learn he is looking like perfect trade bait unless he learns there is no place for wide receivers who have no appetite for the physical contest? Talent plus guts equals footballer.

Couldn't have said it better myself...Cale needs to stop playing footy like a man who still sleeps with the light on at night...

Cale can play, he's a keep in my book.

Couldn't have said it better myself...Cale needs to stop playing footy like a man who still sleeps with the light on at night...

......and a plastic undersheet.......

Ah, the old "I'm not happy with the way a player is playing but don't know the reason why, so I'll make up one and assassinate his character in the process" trick. Well done.

No need to have a crack Nasher,

Was simply highlighting that Cale obviously is a 'great' talent, very good youngster from a footballing family, the seeds are all planted - it just seems to me watching him play that he doesn't defend, prepared to hang off the edge of packs and look for cheap kicks - have you ever notice the majority of goals he gets he's twenty meters on his own? If he played both ways with more intensity he would be a star. I see no reason why that couldn't be the case.

I'm sure he is a great bloke with the same amount of deficiencies in character as your normal bloke.

No need to have a crack Nasher,

Was simply highlighting that Cale obviously is a 'great' talent, very good youngster from a footballing family, the seeds are all planted - it just seems to me watching him play that he doesn't defend, prepared to hang off the edge of packs and look for cheap kicks - have you ever notice the majority of goals he gets he's twenty meters on his own? If he played both ways with more intensity he would be a star. I see no reason why that couldn't be the case.

I'm sure he is a great bloke with the same amount of deficiencies in character as your normal bloke.

Well said! Yes Cale Is an outside runner with a fantastic tank and great skills but just becuase he an outside style player doesnt mean he's exempt from chasing and laying tackles. Needs to work on this side of his game and he'll turn out just fine. I still get a little confused as to what sort of player he'll end up being, he's bloody tall for a running player yet bloody light for a KP type. Looking forward to watching him develop!

His attempted tackle on Kerr last week was embarrassing.

His attempted tackle on Kerr last week was embarrassing.

he is embarrassing..

he is embarrassing..

Well said.

The degrading of one of our own players in this thread is what's truly embarrassing. Get a grip people!

Does anyone attend training sessions?

I heard we had a pretty intense training session during the week. Morton got singled out for not putting his head over the ball in the 1 on 1's and was made to stand on his own while the rest of the squad ran at him, apparently he had to try to tackle them or somthing?! haha

That's not great to read about Cale at training, if true.

I sat with my 1 and 3 year old at the family day, right behind Cale while he spoke with others that approached him and he seems like such a quality guy.

He reminded me of some of the better teachers I had at school.

Not sure what that says for Cale. He needs to do something and get harder or get traded while some other club might believe they can make him this hard footballer where MFC cannot. We may get something out of it.

I'm not sure Cale is going to change which is disappointing because he obviously has talent. It takes much more than that to make it at AFL level.

That's not great to read about Cale at training, if true.

"Red" why is that not great to read about Cale at training? I have only played local footy but every now and again we have all been in a similar situation whether it is us in the gun or someone else. You work as a group to try and improve that side of someone’s game. Now in saying that not all players are built with the same mentality or physically want to put themselves in tight/hard situations but they need be bringing something else to the table.

"Red" why is that not great to read about Cale at training? I have only played local footy but every now and again we have all been in a similar situation whether it is us in the gun or someone else. You work as a group to try and improve that side of someone’s game. Now in saying that not all players are built with the same mentality or physically want to put themselves in tight/hard situations but they need be bringing something else to the table.

Not great in the respect that he needed to be exposed in front of the group so soon after being exposed nationally on TV. That not being the first time either.

I agree with you 13.

The degrading of one of our own players in this thread is what's truly embarrassing. Get a grip people!

Bit precious there Jaded. Not sure how anyone is this thread has degraded Cale.

I too think he plays the free running, (way) out wide wing position, and does need to add some form of physicality to his game. He has shown that he can find space going forward and kicks goals. If he adds some hard, defencesive pressure to his game, he will take that next step or two that we need.

Until then, in my view, he is too much of a sheep dog.

That's not degrading, that's honesty.

Good to hear they did that to him at training (if true). This is a man's game.

is it not good that

a) they made him do that ?

or

B) that he needed it ?

is it not good that

a) they made him do that ?

or

B) that he needed it ?

It's good they made him do it.

It's not good he needed to do it.

That's not great to read about Cale at training, if true.

After speaking to someone from the club yesterday, the gut-wrenching training session from hell that was promised well and truely delivered!

Several players were singled out, including -

Cale Morton

Aaron Davey

Aussie Woneaemiri

Brad Green

The session was a hell of a lot of 1 on 1, and a hell of a lot of tackling. Repeat efforts of 1 on 1 contests up to 10 times. At one stage Cale Morton was told he wasn't putting his head over the ball and needed to harden up. He was then put out in front of the group for 10 minutes as they all ran at him and he had to stick tackles.

Was apparantly the most intense training session the team has had under Bails. Most of the boys pulled up sore, but at the same time, apparantly felt the best they have (mentally) leading into a game for a long time.

If the boys get through this training session, and manage a good win on Sunday, and pull up ok from it all, I want every training session to resemble what happened on Tuesday!

posted on big footy, which i read occasionally for the dee's match previews which are GOLD

We will see...

I think it is pathetic that a Captain and VC have to be singled out at training.

They should be doing the singling out...

If Bailey goes, so does the Leadership Group.

Look to trade them, I don't care.

I just want to move on.

We shouldn't be led by those that have no idea how to lead.

And I am looking in the Moloney, Green, Davey, Rivers, and and to a lesser extent, Jones direction.

Grimes is almost like the the emissary for the talented and reliable youth in the LG...

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I think it is pathetic that a Captain and VC have to be singled out at training.

Absolutely agreed. I cringed when I read that. Not because of the lesson itself, but at who needed to get it. No problem with the baby faced Morton and Wonaeamirri being educated, but it's downright embarrassing that Davey and Green were deemed in need as well.

heres another juicy one;

Usually I am not one for starting baseless rumours and starting threads for the sake of stirring the pot, however, I have been informed by a friend who is a business associate of a player on the current list (don't ask me to name the player, won't happen) that the problems at the MFC go beyond just a lack of game plan.

My source, who is not a football follow at all, tells me the said player described the problems at the MFC in the following ways:

- Many of the senior/older players are [censored] off at Bailey and the FD. They feel that they are not getting opportunities and are more or less being forced to play at Casey simply because the FD is solely interested in getting games into the younger blokes.

- Many of this group feels that this is unfair and are disenchanted with the coaching teams attitude. They feel that if a player is not performing and is not the best player on form, they do not deserve a spot in the team. I tend to agree.

- A lot of the senior group were angry at the decision to let Junior go and also to move on a couple of other members of the playing group.

- A lot of the players do not get along with each other. There is no sense of unity (it shows on the park). I am led to believe that there is a core group of 'friends' at the club but others that are not within the group do not feel that they are part of the 'team'. We do not have a team of mates who want to be alongside one another. This scares the hell out of me. Reason: I have had this feeling just from seeing the players on the field and in warm-ups.

- Th players don't like the style of play that the coaching staff ask them to play. What **** me! as if this wasn't obvious. You see Moloney, Watts and others all throw there hands up in the air when they extract the footy, look up and have not a ****ing thing ahead of them, so they retreat and handball to a flat footed opponent who is under even more pressure, he looks backward again....you get the point!

- The said player has indicated that he is seriously considering giving the game away at season's end .... what a worry!

I was really shocked and angry to hear this info from a source who nI trust and who would have no reason to throw fuel on an already burning fire. However, was I suprised? Not really! This had been my casual observations for a while.

So, what can we do? Well if all of what I have said above is true, and I have no reason to believe that it isn't, Bailey has lost the playing group and failed in his role of mentor and needs to go at season's end. He has failed to get the fire in the belly, the desire to win, the passion to play as a unit and build the passion for the MFC. The last sentence is the biggest worry. Those 40 something blokes on our list should appreciate, respect and care about pulling on that famous jumper everytime they run out. I don't see it. Bailey doesn't know it, so how can he teach it!

We have united this club in so many ways in recent years. Off field we are a united group. The on-field story is different. We need to sell the passion to the players. This passion can only be sold by one, the auctioneer if you like; THE COACH.

DB you may be a nice fella and all, but you just ain't got the fire, the passion, the plan, the desire and the credibility to go beyond this season.

If I am wrong, and DB takes us to the next premiership, i am happy to have eggs thrown in my face. We NEED to bring MFC people into our FD department and coaching team. Those that have experience good and bad teams, those that bleed red and blue, and Bails ... that just ain't you!

We will see...

I think it is pathetic that a Captain and VC have to be singled out at training.

They should be doing the singling out...

If Bailey goes, so does the Leadership Group.

Look to trade them, I don't care.

I just want to move on.

We shouldn't be led by those that have no idea how to lead.

And I am looking in the Moloney, Green, Davey, Rivers, and and to a lesser extent, Jones direction.

Grimes is almost like the the emissary for the talented and reliable youth in the LG...

Ouch

That second one is just "muck raking" as Lyon puts it. Stick to the training reports.

This isn't Bailey's problem, this is this senior player's problem.

If our 'senior group' when any more junior they would be in diapers.

It may not be on the money this info, but frack it.

No-one over 23 on the LG next year.

Edited May 6, 201114 yr by rpfc