joeboy 3,191 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Green - pleasingly found ball Jones - difficult to assess Bartram - was always determined Watts - again showed nothing Gysberts - surprisingly fumbled often Bennell - clever but limited Frawley - some occasional glitches Trengove - terrific all day Morton - effective when required Sylvia - fantastic second half Dunn - couldn't find ball Grimes - not as prolific Garland - was he playing ? Moloney - continued stellar season Jurrah - exciting when required Rivers - was rarely noticed Wonaeamirri - slowly finding feet Martin - has been better Tapscott - backs himself well Davey - some forward success Jamar - dominated as required Bail - never stopped running
Chook 15,068 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Disagree on Rivers. He's actually been our best defender two weeks in a row now. His disposal is much better than it has been, and as long as he plays on the slowest forward, he's great one-one-one. Poor on the lead, but we have the defensive versatility to work around that.
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Disagree on Watts. He played a quarter and had 6 touches and 5 marks, including a couple of big contested grabs. If Davey could handball he'd have had a goal as well. 1 awful kick on his left is the only blemish.
Guest Rojik of the Arctic Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Disagree on Watts. He played a quarter and had 6 touches and 5 marks, including a couple of big contested grabs. If Davey could handball he'd have had a goal as well. 1 awful kick on his left is the only blemish. And a couple of good tackles. But why would anyone let facts get in the way of a good booting?
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Watts - again showed nothing Pathetic analysis. FFS he played one quarter and apart from one disappointing kick, he did some very nice things. Took a couple of good contested marks, tapped the ball to advantage for a goal, laid some tackles. What the hell did you expect from a tall forward being used as a sub? It was a bloody idiotic decision. If Bailey didn't want him in the team he should have dropped him. To have to sub Jurrah to get Watts on was mind boggling, and no doubt Watts will now have to play for Casey next weekend to make up some match fitness.
bing181 9,472 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 And a couple of good tackles. But why would anyone let facts get in the way of a good booting? Because this is the MFC, and we sledge players, the club, the coach and other supporters every chance we get, warranted or not.
ox_5 163 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Disagree on Watts. He played a quarter and had 6 touches and 5 marks, including a couple of big contested grabs. If Davey could handball he'd have had a goal as well. 1 awful kick on his left is the only blemish. Agree. His intensity was up and looked like he wanted to hunt the footy more than usual. Stuck some tackles which usually slip and put himself in good positions. Should hold his spot against the Eagles in my opinion.
bing181 9,472 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 ... and no doubt Watts will now have to play for Casey next weekend to make up some match fitness. Casey don't play next weekend either.
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Disagree on Watts. He played a quarter and had 6 touches and 5 marks, including a couple of big contested grabs. If Davey could handball he'd have had a goal as well. 1 awful kick on his left is the only blemish. The problem is those stats say nothing about Watts' intensity, urgency to get the ball, willingness to put his body on the line and head over the ball. That's his problem, not the number of kicks and marks per game.
Roost It 1,434 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Pathetic analysis. FFS he played one quarter and apart from one disappointing kick, he did some very nice things. Took a couple of good contested marks, tapped the ball to advantage for a goal, laid some tackles. What the hell did you expect from a tall forward being used as a sub? It was a bloody idiotic decision. If Bailey didn't want him in the team he should have dropped him. To have to sub Jurrah to get Watts on was mind boggling, and no doubt Watts will now have to play for Casey next weekend to make up some match fitness. Correct. Tall forwards aren't subs. I know it's about development but we should still set our structures correctly. Sub should be Petterd until he's 4 quarter fit. OUTS: Dunn, Bennell (nice cameo's and I think he'll be a good player but we need to give Maric some game time to see if he's got it or not), Jones, Can you drop the captain?
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 The problem is those stats say nothing about Watts' intensity, urgency to get the ball, willingness to put his head on the line and body over the ball. That's his problem, not the number of kicks and marks per game. He took some good contested marks today and put himself in many contests. One of his clearances on the forward 50 arc was exceptional with 4 guys on him. Did you watch the game or are you just another one of those supporters who will continue to put sh*t on him until he kicks 6 goals?
Roost It 1,434 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 The problem is those stats say nothing about Watts' intensity, urgency to get the ball, willingness to put his head on the line and body over the ball. That's his problem, not the number of kicks and marks per game. When did he not do these things? Hell I'm well aware he hasn't come on like we would of hoped but be realistic with your criticism.
ox_5 163 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 The problem is those stats say nothing about Watts' intensity, urgency to get the ball, willingness to put his head on the line and body over the ball. That's his problem, not the number of kicks and marks per game. That's the thing Clint, he improved in all those aspects in the one quarter he had a chance to.
The Great One 99 125 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Pathetic analysis. FFS he played one quarter and apart from one disappointing kick, he did some very nice things. Took a couple of good contested marks, tapped the ball to advantage for a goal, laid some tackles. What the hell did you expect from a tall forward being used as a sub? It was a bloody idiotic decision. If Bailey didn't want him in the team he should have dropped him. To have to sub Jurrah to get Watts on was mind boggling, and no doubt Watts will now have to play for Casey next weekend to make up some match fitness. Totally agree. I cant understand this decision. Either play him for the whole game or dont. Watts would of got more from a full game for Casey. Today would of been a set back for him, even though I thought he did ok for the time he was given.
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 He took some good contested marks today and put himself in many contests. One of his clearances on the forward 50 arc was exceptional with 4 guys on him. Did you watch the game or are you just another one of those supporters who will continue to put sh*t on him until he kicks 6 goals? I'm not worried about his goal kicking. I just want to see him be ruthless at the contest and to really want to get the ball no matter the cost, not just "put himself" in contests. He did not do that today even as the fresh player in a last quarter where the opposition had all but given up.
Maldonboy38 6,435 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Let's stick to the thread title folks. Green - better game today Jones - showed poise often Bartram - solid but clumsy Watts - better but hesitant Gysberts - fumbled all day Bennell - flashy but wide Frawley - went through motions Trengove - outstanding midfield game Morton - just warming up Sylvia - fantastic second half Dunn - Casey is calling Grimes - can... not.... kick Garland - hardly saw him Moloney - outstanding midfield game Jurrah - attack AND defence Rivers - really good game Wonaeamirri - better and better Martin - faded out slowly Tapscott - keeps on working Davey - right foot goal!!! Jamar - great ruck game Bail - just keeps running .
Felix 92 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Watts - again showed nothing At least you bothered to mention the sub this time around, you didnt bother when Maric was subbed in v Hawkes and only had 6 for 1.5 quarters... I detect you have it in for watts. PS, I had to laugh when he tried t bounce the ball in the dying seconds and muffed it up
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 I'm not worried about his goal kicking. I just want to see him be ruthless at the contest and to really want to get the ball no matter the cost, not just "put himself" in contests. He did not do that today even as the fresh player in a last quarter where the opposition had all but given up. So you want him to get smashed and break something, is that it? He runs to the right spots and he takes contested marks. He'll get down on his knees in contests and feed the ball out. What else do you want? I've never encountered this phenomenon before of supporters being obsessed with watching a young player prove he is any good in the way of getting hurt or negligently throwing themselves at a contest. It's absurd and it shows how silly supporters can be, because they look at Hurley and go "ohhhh hard player, smashes bodies" and therefore if Watts doesn't play this style of game he is useless and a drafting mistake.
deewakka 1 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 While I like to read this post most times I think it would be prudent to also list a 3 world analysis for the other team just to see how they performed against our opinion of the mighty Demons you may find whilst in your opinion some players did not do well their direct opponent did a lot worse
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Green - not yet captain Jones - unJones like game Bartram - Blease or Strauss? Watts - MUST KEEP SPOT Gysberts - does hard stuff Bennell - like in backline Frawley - best still coming Trengove - hits the post Morton - run V soft Sylvia - arrogant or confident? Dunn - We want Juice! Grimes - the new Bruce Garland - had sloppy moments Moloney - dominant first half Jurrah - better defensive game Rivers - led the way Wonaeamirri - little brilliant moments Martin - decent hit outs Tapscott - the new Grimes Davey - need more words --- thought one of Bailey's better coaching decisions was to give Davey some easy kill time up forward, instead of having to be the go to man as he is most weeks Jamar - just too BIG! Bail - better each week
Maldonboy38 6,435 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Green - not yet captain Jones - unJones like game Bartram - Blease or Strauss? Watts - MUST KEEP SPOT Gysberts - does hard stuff Bennell - like in backline Frawley - best still coming Trengove - hits the post Morton - run V soft Sylvia - arrogant or confident? Dunn - We want Juice! Grimes - the new Bruce Garland - had sloppy moments Moloney - dominant first half Jurrah - better defensive game Rivers - led the way Wonaeamirri - little brilliant moments Martin - decent hit outs Tapscott - the new Grimes Davey - need more words --- thought one of Bailey's better coaching decisions was to give Davey some easy kill time up forward, instead of having to be the go to man as he is most weeks Jamar - just too BIG! Bail - better each week Green - not yet captain? How was his leadershihp deficient today? Bartram - yep, Blease or Strauss have to be given a go soon. Barty shows great endeavour but... I shudder when he has an easy kick in space. Grimes - the new Bruce. I hate to say it, but if he does not improve his kicking soon you will be spot on with this insight. Morton - I have no idea what you mean. Sylvia - both arrogance and confidence and we need a a few players with both. At his best shrugging tackles, baulking opponents and surging forward. .
praha 11,267 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Disagreed on Watts. I'm starting to feel for this kid with the moronic analysis he gets from the public. The kid played 20 minutes, got his hand onto the ball and set up a goal. 6 possessions in 1 quarter = 24 possession game. Throw in the two contested possessions. I'd have: Watts - Limited but efficient
Felix 92 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Davey need =s to stop handballing to Watts feet...
DirtyDees DDC 190 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 So you want him to get smashed and break something, is that it? He runs to the right spots and he takes contested marks. He'll get down on his knees in contests and feed the ball out. What else do you want? I've never encountered this phenomenon before of supporters being obsessed with watching a young player prove he is any good in the way of getting hurt or negligently throwing themselves at a contest. It's absurd and it shows how silly supporters can be, because they look at Hurley and go "ohhhh hard player, smashes bodies" and therefore if Watts doesn't play this style of game he is useless and a drafting mistake. good points. What he does, he usually does well. He contests in a pack and gets the ball out to a free player, even if it's just a tap out to Davey. He's getting game time. In 2-3 years he and Cook will be our two key position players, with Jurrah on the flank. Let's judge his career in 10 years time, not on 1/4 as a sub against a sub-standard team.
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Bail - just keeps running I noticed that. The man is a machine! It also makes me wonder what Scully will be like in a couple of years since he's even more of a machine.
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