Quigley's Phantom Draft on BF

[e25 5]

Quigley on BigFooty seems to be well respected and this Phantom Draft would demonstrate why.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=774682

ignore the order, as his strange method is not indicative of where the players will likely go, but his analysis of the draftees is incredible.

Of the players I know anything about, he seems to have them pretty much spot on.

Some opinions I disagree with, but I can see where he is coming from, it's more a difference of opinion on the importance of certain aspects of the game.

I suggest, if you want to know more about a player, find him in there and it will give you a much better idea.

On the topic of the draft overall, he touches on some things that didn't occur to me, but seem obvious now.

This draft is not full of elite kicks, it is a very good year for inside mids & there are a handful of top order KPP then the most of the rest are late projects.

My effort absolutely pales in comparison.

[bing181 9,230]

You beat me to it, was just about to post something similar.

Great read, the boy has done his homework. Though Lycett at 12 ... ??

[e25 5]

He knows the players available inside out.

Picking which teams will go for what and where is where he falls down.

He gets some things bang on, but overall his order seems a bit out of whack.

& I wouldn't be unhappy with Lycett.

I just still hold hope we'll get a proper slider.

Edited November 7, 2010 by E25

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Smedts at our second pick is pretty sweet.

[old55 23,570]

It's a massive read.

It's good that he lists the players in the order he likes them - that's what you should try to do in a phantom.

In the big picture it's not how close you get to the actual draft order, it's how you rate the players - club recruiters can get it wrong too.

The important thing to look at when rating these phantoms is to look back at the player descriptions from previous effort and see how they panned out.

Something I can't be bothered doing and seemingly neither can anyone else. Look at his 2007 effort and see how it panned out, that would be the best indicator of worth.

There's a lot of fawning over detailed description on BigFooty and elsewhere ...

[e25 5]

Yeah, but being able to see how a kid plays and articulate it is obviously a rare skill.

I couldn't have done it as well as he has in some cases.

[old55 23,570]

Yeah, but being able to see how a kid plays and articulate it is obviously a rare skill.

I couldn't have done it as well as he has in some cases.

Yeah but is it accurate? That's all that matters.

"A" for effort? - here's 50c.

Here's his 2008 effort, that's the earliest available on BF that I can find even though he goes back further - it's still early to make a definitive call on a lot of these players - make up your own mind about his assessments

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=518477

Edited November 8, 2010 by old55

[e25 5]

Can't find his 07 offering, but his 08 effort looks good.

Mentions at the beginning that he omitted Strauss unlike others purely because he doesn't rate him...

Not a bad effort.

Swift at 7, Mitch Robinson at 9 both hurt him.

The thing is, for an amatuer, or any lone recruiter, it is impossible to know & cover all of the kids out there.

You're going to miss some.

The analysis of the players he has seen is what I'm more interested in.

He seems to have nailed Watts.

[CarnTheDees 52]

Hill at 31 also hurt...

[e25 5]

Yep, but I reckon he nailed Rohan Bail.

The write up on Sam Blease can only fill us with optimism.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,050]

Has Smelts falling to us with our second pick. Would be nice if it happened.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

His summary on Josh Walker is exactly my summation of the kid.

I really hope we pick him up with late pick.

[sylvinator 96]

His 2009 mock is ok (though he didn't rate Gysberts very highly)

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=16379176

[old55 23,570]

His 2009 mock is ok (though he didn't rate Gysberts very highly)

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=16379176

Quite frankly there's either a liberal dose of bullshitting in these phantoms or they're somewhere beyond tragic into the creepy.

It just can't be healthy to watch enough U18 football all over the country to be able to make an informed assesment of 100 players - just for "fun".

[H_T 3,046]

His 2009 mock is ok (though he didn't rate Gysberts very highly)

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=16379176

Same for Gary Rohan.

In 2008 Mock - Stephen Hill was the biggest surprise at 31 !

[The Great Pretender 463]

Not impressed.

The fact that he produces a great amount of verbiage in describing players I'm not sure if he's describing them directly from his own observations. He seems to be drawing a lot on Kevin Sheehan's descriptions when he goes on about Lucas Cook and his reading of the ball in flight when going for his marks. I'm not sure if it matches the reality based on what I've seen of Cook whi is a good mark.