Gold Coast Raid

[Demon2 58]

I love Morton, but I worry that Fremantle will offer him some money down the track. I hope he stays. He's a gun. Surely he must see the premiership potential at MFC? We'll give a flag a real shot in a couple of years time. We've built a team already that has greater potential to anything that I've seen in my lifetime. We'll win premiership before Freo even make a Grand Final.

his family is all here in Vic now..including parents why would he go back???

[The Chazz 4,077]

Not sure why we are all concerned about this "salary cap issue we will have in the next 2 years. Until this team get us to a level where we are a serious premiership contender (ie like the teams this year of Geelong, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs, etc), we can't just go paying them top dollar based on potential and possibility.

Look at Geelong over this time, they have lost no top line players in their dominant past 3 years, sure they are having some salary cap issues (ie had to let Mumford go), but they still have a majority of their premiership players running around today.

In 3 years time we may be having a crack for a flag. I can't see any of these boys wanting to go anywhere else, unless they are offering $$$ like the GC17/Ablett scenario. At this stage, none of our players are as good as G Ablett jnr.

[e25 5]

Money.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Isn't that always what happens with organizations-people take over from previous people.

John Northey got us into 5 Final series running...count them.

So give the man some credit even if you are still upset that it wasn't RDB.

He didn't build the side, he profited on it.

Anyway, my point is Not about Johhny Northey or his side kick, they did a fair job. But ratheryou seem to keep promoting that team, with out ANY acknowledgement of all the strategy & hard work that Barass & his team did inconstructing that side from scratch with nothing but Flower & one handfull of rawly talented players & a Clubfull of losing mentality.

He & his team worked worked without the draft helping to rebuild our list, even going offshore, to IRELAND, to try to pick some advantage with Celtic talent.

Its not that you constantly promote Northey,,, but rather the Loud ommission of the Real Hard Work that was done was done by Barass, Jordan, B Richardson, Dick Seddon, Cam Schwab, et al. Not to mention all the time & effort of the off field staff & volunteers who went to work for years without winning a game, as they built the Club back up again.

The Incumbent management inherited a great product ready to roll.

Just add some confidence to the list & away they went.

I'm happy to speak to you about which player s learnt their craft under the management of Barassi/Jordan. Its all in the stats at, http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ti-melbourne-demons

As I said, Northey did well, with someone elses, Blood Sweat & Tears.

He didn't finish the Job.

[Guest 45 double agent]

tool of the week goes to you, the great man J Northey showed me something id never seen before, FINALS.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Isn't that always what happens with organizations-people take over from previous people.

John Northey got us into 5 Final series running...count them.

So give the man some credit even if you are still upset that it wasn't RDB.

I do give Northey credit. Allways have. But my perception of you is allways without exception, your missing the building & developing of that side before Northey got the reins handed to him.

I for one was hoping he'd get the gig, & he did.

Answer me a Question. Do you like Barassi? And do you think his team did a great job rebuilding the Club???

[dee-luded 2,958]

tool of the week goes to you, the great man J Northey showed me something id never seen before, FINALS.

A plunge router would be very handy. I need a plunge Router if your giving them out. Makita or Hitachi please.

[Guest 45 double agent]

smartass

[Sir Why You Little 34,647]

I do give Northey credit. Allways have. But my perception of you is allways without exception, your missing the building & developing of that side before Northey got the reins handed to him.

I for one was hoping he'd get the gig, & he did.

Answer me a Question. Do you like Barassi? And do you think his team did a great job rebuilding the Club???

Having Read "The Coach" many times I Respect RDB, sure although i hated those Flags he won for North in the '70's-They should have been ours.

That said when Barrass came back in the '80s the place was in a mess, & i am sure he and slug did a lot of Hard work but we got No results on field with the seniors.

So i give RDB some credit along with slug, But most i give to John Northey.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Having Read "The Coach" many times I Respect RDB, sure although i hated those Flags he won for North in the '70's-They should have been ours.

That said when Barrass came back in the '80s the place was in a mess, & i am sure he and slug did a lot of Hard work but we got No results on field with the seniors.

So i give RDB some credit along with slug, But most i give to John Northey.

Oh.....so thats what it is... Wow, sorry mate, I really didn't understand. My perception of your reluctance to acknowledge the Barassi regime was upsetting me.

Now I get it. I'm sorry you feel that bad.

I told Barassi myself that he let me down when he left to go to Carlton. He understood, & tried to make it good with me. He's a great Bloke.

Northey was very fortunate, but did a good job.

We needed to continue to build that list under him,,,,,as we do know, currently......

[Sir Why You Little 34,647]

Oh.....so thats what it is... Wow, sorry mate, I really didn't understand. My perception of your reluctance to acknowledge the Barassi regime was upsetting me.

Now I get it. I'm sorry you feel that bad.

I told Barassi myself that he let me down when he left to go to Carlton. He understood, & tried to make it good with me. He's a great Bloke.

Northey was very fortunate, but did a good job.

We needed to continue to build that list under him,,,,,as we do know, currently......

RDB is a great bloke-don't get me wrong, but he was the first to bring in these Dammed "5 year plans" & it didn't work sadly, don't Forget at Carlton & North he had ready made (just add water sides) so it is hard to know how good RDB is as a Grass Roots Coach. He had all the pieces of his chess board. At melbourne he didn't.

I have had a few Beers with Barrass when he had that pub in Richmond-Told him i Hated those North Flags too.

I Hope Barrass Presents the Cup to the next Melbourne Capt. like Bob Davis did too Geelong last year

[dee-luded 2,958]

RDB is a great bloke-don't get me wrong, but he was the first to bring in these Dammed "5 year plans" & it didn't work sadly, don't Forget at Carlton & North he had ready made (just add water sides) so it is hard to know how good RDB is as a Grass Roots Coach. He had all the pieces of his chess board. At melbourne he didn't.

I have had a few Beers with Barrass when he had that pub in Richmond-Told him i Hated those North Flags too.

I Hope Barrass Presents the Cup to the next Melbourne Capt. like Bob Davis did too Geelong last year

He's not a teaching coach, in that he's not a coach to develop the kids like Bailey's doing.

But thats the job that was offered him. That was Jordans caper.

Thats why IMO, Northey was so fortunate to get the side when he did.

Barass pushed the players so hard to get them to learn & improve they had lost some confidence.

A fresh change was all that was needed for that group to let their skills out & flourish.

Their passion was their for all to see.

[Little Goffy 12,704]

I thought it was interesting that, way back in 2008, the three players I remember seeing at the Demon Summit were McDonald, Rivers and Morton. There were a couple of others but they were mixed into other groups.

Morton, who was all of 18, it would be fair to say he wasn't used to the idea that he could just walk up to anyone there and they'd be delighted to chat with him. Still had a little shyness to him. Very endearing.

[dee-luded 2,958]

RDB is a great bloke-don't get me wrong, but he was the first to bring in these Dammed "5 year plans" & it didn't work sadly, don't Forget at Carlton & North he had ready made (just add water sides) so it is hard to know how good RDB is as a Grass Roots Coach. He had all the pieces of his chess board. At melbourne he didn't.

I have had a few Beers with Barrass when he had that pub in Richmond-Told him i Hated those North Flags too.

I Hope Barrass Presents the Cup to the next Melbourne Capt. like Bob Davis did too Geelong last year

Well, its time to let that anger go,,,, WYL.. He's one of our legends,,,and he taught these boys who Now have the controls.

The Spirit of''Checker' Hughes', Smith & Barassi live on...

[Sir Why You Little 34,647]

He's not a teaching coach, in that he's not a coach to develop the kids like Bailey's doing.

But thats the job that was offered him. That was Jordans caper.

Thats why IMO, Northey was so fortunate to get the side when he did.

Barass pushed the players so hard to get them to learn & improve they had lost some confidence.

A fresh change was all that was needed for that group to let their skills out & flourish.

Their passion was their for all to see.

Point Taken-But Northey was the right man to get the best out of those boys (after a shaky start-dont forget we were 6-9 before we got Fired up in '87.) Some of John's warm up speeches were amazing i have heard via G. Lyon, which is why we often put in Huge First halves & then Hung on for a close victory.

They were never the greatest side but Northey got them to often over achieve.

[the pearl 29]

He inherited the prodginy of Barass' & Jordan + added a few like Doug Koops from Nth Melb.

He did a good job with other peoples efforts.

Didn't Doug Koop come from South Melb/Sydney and Springvale before that?

[dee-luded 2,958]

Didn't Doug Koop come from South Melb/Sydney and Springvale before that?

He may have, I'm not that pedantic.

If you like I'll check.

EDIT: Doug Koop - 1979, Sth Melb/ - Nth Melb/ - Melbourne - 1987 - 1988.

Edited April 20, 2010 by dee-luded

[Sir Why You Little 34,647]

He may have, I'm not that pedantic.

If you like I'll check.

EDIT: Doug Koop - 1979, Sth Melb/ - Nth Melb/ - Melbourne - 1987 - 1988.

Jamie Dursma was another Beauty who resurrected a career in that 88 year, a complete no name who played in the Grand Final side.

Good Bloke i met jamie after he retired-he loved his time with Northey & the Demons.

[Binmans PA 26,284]

3/ The team have been through the wringer and still the morale is great. Why leave now when there is every chance of sharing the fruits of success with your mates?

I doesn't make sense to me either. I hope Enforcer is correct.