Newton

[wonnabeeri 233]

Everyone is screaming that we don't have a forward line and Newton should come back in immediately.

Has everyone forgotten his inability to kick goals/play afl? Plus he is on the rookie list.

I suggest [pCount]=&search_app_filters[forums][pViews]=&search_sort_by=relevance&search_sort_order=asc&content_title_only=1&search_term=newton&search_filter_app[forums]=1&st=50"]Reading through a few of these threads and remember how quick everyone has been to write him off in the past.

There are no quick answers to our current situation. Watts will develop, and we will probably go for forwards in the next draft. The reality is other than Butcher and Watts there has been a severe lack of forwards where our draft picks have been.

Our time will come. Patience is a virtue my friends.

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

I'm not overly worried. We all knew coming into this season that our forwards were crap. The hurt comes from seeing Jurrah sidelined and Watts still on limited work/not playing. The two guys were hoping to see something from are both sitting the matches out and in their place we have Miller (who to be fair didn't miss a shot at goal yesterday) and Spencer starting in the forward 50. Add to that that Petterd had the yips and you get a great deal of supporter angst.

However, whether the gameplan works or not, by the second half of the season we'll be seeing a much improved look to our forwards. We'll have Jurrah back, Morton as well (assuming that he plays a few games up forward here and there) and hopefully Watts will have worked his way into the season by then.

For now, just accept that we have no functioning forwards and have a good laugh. Think of how fondly you will remember this time in a few years, telling jokes about how inept we once were...

[PeterJames 46]

The fact is Newton is at the point where he will give more than what Dunn, Bate and Miller is providing us with.

I'm pretty sure we can promote at least one more rookie with our LTI's.

[w00dy 146]

i was calling for his inclusion for most of last season given the way our forward line was functioning...

he's more dangerous than Miller closer to goal, and his inclusion would allow Miller to play in the position where he's played his best football, Centre Half Forward, an area of the ground we were really breaking down, because we had no target...

even if he kicks 2 goals 5 each week, he's going to straighten us up, give our forward line some structure...

[Arthur Dent 2]

I think you answered the question in the thread title. Has had his chances and didnt take them. Seriously, if he really REALLY wanted it, he would have grabbed the opportunity. We have had next to zero forward options for a couple of years, and someone with hunger would have snaffled the chance by now.

[Vagg 2,422]

There's gotta be a reason why he's still on the list (albeit as a Rookie). Obviously, the Football Dept sees something there. I, for one, would love to see the kid finally get it all together and make a positive impact in our team.

Still dreaming...

[Jarka 767]

Everything is relative. Right now my 99 y/o grandmother looks relatively good compared to our current forwardline.

[Trisul 649]

Sat 2/May ---vs- Coburg Tigers ---- 5 1

Sun 17/May --vs- Box Hill Hawks---- 2 -

Sun 24/May --vs- North Ballarat---- 1 -

Sun 31/May --vs- Geelong----------- 3 -

Sat 6/Jun ---vs- Werribee Tigers--- 1 -

Sat 13/Jun --vs- Northern Bullants- 1 -

Sat 27/Jun --vs- Williamstown------ 3 -

Sun 5/Jul ---vs- Bendigo Bombers -- 4 -

Sat 11/Jul --vs- Frankston -------- 4 -

Sat 18/Jul --vs- Collingwood ------ 4 6

Sat 5/Sep ---vs- Collingwood ------ 3 -

Edited March 29, 2010 by Trident

[Jack7 463]

Yes we have a huge forward line problem but make no mistake

We lost the game and got absolutely smashed between the 50m arcs which put huge pressure on our backline.

I have big question marks on Moloney,Jones & Bruce and Grimes,Scully and Trenners will overtake them very quickly.

Week in week out Junior & Greeny perform but they do it on their own.

Jeez i hope Green is captain rd. 1 next year.

[jaysoul 0]

Newton definitaly need to come back in. At least we will have a target up there.

Bring Maric back in and they can crum off him. I couldn't care if he kicks 1-7 as long as there a shots on goal.

I agree Jack7, Green should be captain next year... Should have been 2 years ago.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

That's just not true about Newton...

Everyone right now is SCREAMING about our lack of forwards. Sylvia is a gun but only plays as a bit-part KP forward. Miller showed what he is good for on the weekend, and that's NOT goal-kicking.

Newton is a spud. Sure. but I HATE coming on here and going through posts that mention something of this kind...

"Miller: It's a wonder he's still on the list. Why wasn't he delisted 2 years ago?"

It's this kind of idiotic, thoughtless rant that drives me nuts.

The answer is simple. There was NO-ONE better. There aren't any good KP forwards that can take a hit in the league that are available, and that can stick around more than 1 or 2 years. Hall and Bradshaw would have been LOVELY but would have soaked up game time, and would have moved on in 12-24 months.

Miller is not up to it, fine, whatever... half the medium age/seniors in the side aren't either. But delisting him and leaving it up to kids leaves you with what we have. And injured Jurrah who was triple teamed in a pre-season!

I have questions about the delisting of Robbo. But I CAN understand the thinking. He's not the future any more than Hall or Bradshaw were. He could kick some goals, but would have provided the wrong message to the kids, that lairising isn't the way forward for MFC. I don't agree... but then so what? I would be MORE worried about the club if they listened to me when it comes to the direction the list is taking, or some of the nuff nuffs on here for that matter.

Just saying "Brad Miller isn't up to it" is not enough for people here. We KNOW Newton and Miller are likely rubbish, and have been given more chances than they deserve. but we CAN'T go into a season with 19 year old KP forwards. It'll do mroe harm than good.

And for the record, Miller is NO favourite of Dean Bailey's. If he had a better option, he'd have dropped him... and in 2008 he did.

Newton will play games. Jurrah's injury, and our lack of targets will sort that out. And at his age now, and his size... coupled with the fact that he knows he's gone at the end of 2010... or as soon as we can draft and train up 3 better options than him... means that he might just straighten us up.

No-one's expecting a 6 goal game... But he's scored goals in the past and has provided a marking target inside fifty that can cause a spillage. And THAT'S what we've been missing the most. Someone who can bring it to ground, stay mobile, and give the crumbers a chance to come into the game... thereby forcing the opposition coach to think defensively instead of giving the likes of Ellis, Birchall and co the chance to run around with it at will.

[cat attack 26]

That's just not true about Newton...

Everyone right now is SCREAMING about our lack of forwards. Sylvia is a gun but only plays as a bit-part KP forward. Miller showed what he is good for on the weekend, and that's NOT goal-kicking.

Newton is a spud. Sure. but I HATE coming on here and going through posts that mention something of this kind...

"Miller: It's a wonder he's still on the list. Why wasn't he delisted 2 years ago?"

It's this kind of idiotic, thoughtless rant that drives me nuts.

The answer is simple. There was NO-ONE better. There aren't any good KP forwards that can take a hit in the league that are available, and that can stick around more than 1 or 2 years. Hall and Bradshaw would have been LOVELY but would have soaked up game time, and would have moved on in 12-24 months.

Miller is not up to it, fine, whatever... half the medium age/seniors in the side aren't either. But delisting him and leaving it up to kids leaves you with what we have. And injured Jurrah who was triple teamed in a pre-season!

I have questions about the delisting of Robbo. But I CAN understand the thinking. He's not the future any more than Hall or Bradshaw were. He could kick some goals, but would have provided the wrong message to the kids, that lairising isn't the way forward for MFC. I don't agree... but then so what? I would be MORE worried about the club if they listened to me when it comes to the direction the list is taking, or some of the nuff nuffs on here for that matter.

Just saying "Brad Miller isn't up to it" is not enough for people here. We KNOW Newton and Miller are likely rubbish, and have been given more chances than they deserve. but we CAN'T go into a season with 19 year old KP forwards. It'll do mroe harm than good.

And for the record, Miller is NO favourite of Dean Bailey's. If he had a better option, he'd have dropped him... and in 2008 he did.

Newton will play games. Jurrah's injury, and our lack of targets will sort that out. And at his age now, and his size... coupled with the fact that he knows he's gone at the end of 2010... or as soon as we can draft and train up 3 better options than him... means that he might just straighten us up.

No-one's expecting a 6 goal game... But he's scored goals in the past and has provided a marking target inside fifty that can cause a spillage. And THAT'S what we've been missing the most. Someone who can bring it to ground, stay mobile, and give the crumbers a chance to come into the game... thereby forcing the opposition coach to think defensively instead of giving the likes of Ellis, Birchall and co the chance to run around with it at will.

Agreed, but how long can you keep our list together if we cant win games

we are not wining with what we have...Jurrah was never going to be the answer, I say try something different...Warnock as a forward Bruce as a permanant forward and then play a few kids around him...When Watts is back he will take at least 20-30 games to show waht he has.

JUST DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result..............

[Rogue 585]

I posted up Newton's goals p/game not so long ago, and I think his tackling and pressure is much improved on some of the efforts earlier in his career.

[WonnaJurah 5]

The only way that Newton was going to get games this year was if we were down on forwards, which we are now. Lets see how a man who is on his last chance goes. Also bring in Marric as a running forward like Medhurst

[demons27 1]

The only way that Newton was going to get games this year was if we were down on forwards, which we are now. Lets see how a man who is on his last chance goes. Also bring in Marric as a running forward like Medhurst

Sorry to say that Newton has shown very little ability to hold down any position at senior AFL level. Newton's 6th law of motion is "when the football comes in my direction, even with no opponent in sight, I will drop it and accidentally knock it out of bounds".