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Here's a bit of the 'nastiness' or 'ruthlessness' that some of you seem to be so keen on seeing.

Herald-Sun article

Sounds like we could actually put some of this intel to use. Handy.

love it, great work Dave, about time someone at the club got some mongrel about them

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Here's a bit of the 'nastiness' or 'ruthlessness' that some of you seem to be so keen on seeing.

Herald-Sun article

Sounds like we could actually put some of this intel to use. Handy.

I don't mind the club getting hold of information in this regard, they've all been doing it for some time. What irks me is that now Hawthorn knew a week before the game. How did the Dees not keep it to themselves ? And what is to say Hawthorn doesn't or hasn't changed their plans before game day ?

I think the Dees should be more in tune on what they intend to do gameday, than worry about the opposition. Like winning the % of contests around the ground, not just at the stoppages.

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I love it - but geez I wish we'd have been better over the time he's been doing it. Spying to get all this info to get done by 10 goals plus makes me sad.

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I don't mind the club getting hold of information in this regard, they've all been doing it for some time. What irks me is that now Hawthorn knew a week before the game. How did the Dees not keep it to themselves ? And what is to say Hawthorn doesn't or hasn't changed their plans before game day ?

I think the Dees should be more in tune on what they intend to do gameday, than worry about the opposition. Like winning the % of contests around the ground, not just at the stoppages.

Possibly someone saw him, as has frequently happened in the past.

If it results in Hawthorn desperately trying to tweak their gameplan in the next few days then I think that would make things a lot harder for them come game day.

Considering that is Dunbar's job I have no problem with him concentrating on it.

To say we should be more in tune with what we intend to do on gameday, would be to assume Bailey is waiting on Dunbar's info with baited breath. Not a likely scenario.

Every little bit helps. It's about gaining whatever advantage you can.

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I love it - but geez I wish we'd have been better over the time he's been doing it. Spying to get all this info to get done by 10 goals plus makes me sad.

We won't get beaten by more than 10 goals! I'll put my life on that...

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We need to now what the opposition is doing, what if they haven't got a second tall forward and they pick a small speedster, has been seen training in all the drills....do we drop Warnock or take a risk.......as for the game.....Bailey needs every bit of information he can get........I am sure because for the last couple of years we have been so predictable...he would like to throw a curve ball at Hawthorn from the opening bounce.....and I am sure Hawthorn would love to know what it is........every club does it.......

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I think the focus would be more on who they plan to use in the ruck and what tactics they will use at stoppages (who is likely to be 3rd man up, therefore we need to block his path to the contest).

It'd be simple matchups and finding ways to put a spanner in the other teams' works.

Also seeing what sort of defence we're likely to have to combat helps.

Edit: For instance, the papers have been talking up Grimley - Emma Quayle on SEN today said she'd barely seen him play in the ruck at all when in U18 competition, although she hadn't watch all of his games.

Lisle as well is a young defender.

The hawks themselves have mentioned Carl Peterson from memory, and last I checked he was something like 187cm.

Lewis and Hodge training as 3rd man up would also suggest Lewis will play, as some have mentioned he might not play.

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I think the focus would be more on who they plan to use in the ruck and what tactics they will use at stoppages (who is likely to be 3rd man up, therefore we need to block his path to the contest).

It'd be simple matchups and finding ways to put a spanner in the other teams' works.

Also seeing what sort of defence we're likely to have to combat helps.

Edit: For instance, the papers have been talking up Grimley - Emma Quayle on SEN today said she'd barely seen him play in the ruck at all when in U18 competition, although she hadn't watch all of his games.

Lisle as well is a young defender.

The hawks themselves have mentioned Carl Peterson from memory, and last I checked he was something like 187cm.

Lewis and Hodge training as 3rd man up would also suggest Lewis will play, as some have mentioned he might not play.

Its time for Mark Jamar to step up, and take the game by the balls and dominate in the centre square, and around the ground to give us first use at all times!!

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Lewis and Hodge training as 3rd man up would also suggest Lewis will play, as some have mentioned he might not play.

This part has peaked my interest:

Bailey and Co MUST have made sure that around the boundry we combat the 3rd man up scenario even if it means we screen the likely

Hodge and Lewis it has got to be done to ensure our one tactical advantage this weekend is actually maintained. Bailey's tactics

or the sides execution of them so far this pre-season have been abysmal.

Jamar must crash the pack bash up the opposition ruckmen but not get carried away dominance of the ruck thisn week

is a must. Play Martin out of the goal square let Jamar dominate the ruck at least he's been in reasonable form.

If we do this we will for want of a better word be 'competitive'.

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This part has peaked my interest:

Bailey and Co MUST have made sure that around the boundry we combat the 3rd man up scenario even if it means we screen the likely

Hodge and Lewis it has got to be done to ensure our one tactical advantage this weekend is actually maintained. Bailey's tactics

or the sides execution of them so far this pre-season have been abysmal.

Jamar must crash the pack bash up the opposition ruckmen but not get carried away dominance of the ruck thisn week

is a must. Play Martin out of the goal square let Jamar dominate the ruck at least he's been in reasonable form.

If we do this we will for want of a better word be 'competitive'.

Better still don't play Martin.

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