a dislocated shoulder would always require surgery i would say for any footballer, if not it's just waiting to happen again.

he and cale can work together. It is a shame but it just means someone else gets a chance to step up.

Very rarely will we have a complete list to choose from.

Look at hawthorn now for Round 1....Very Beatable if the MFC has the right attitude.

Was hoping for 6-10 Weeks. 12-16 Weeks if true is really really disappointing. Wish the club would

give us some news and announce how long. I know their covering all bases i just hate waiting.

As of now, this is the official injury list on the MFC website:

Injury list as at 4 March 2010

-Aaron Davey – Adductor Soreness – 1 week

- Cameron Bruce – Hamstring – 1 week

- Matthew Bate – Quad – 1 week

- Colin Garland – Foot – 1 week

- Neville Jetta – Groin – 1-2 weeks

- Jack Watts – Back – 2-3 weeks

- Sam Blease – Ankle – 2-3 weeks

- Paul Johnson – Foot – 5 weeks

- Cale Morton – Knee – 8-10 weeks

- John Meesen – Ankle – Indefinite

- Max Gawn – Knee – Indefinite

- Luke Tapscott – Hip – Indefinite

The only info on LJ says Bell out for 6 weeks, Jurrah is still being considered. In my experience in these things often several medical opinions are sought and options considered. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case here. I'm sure given the supporters' concerns they would post the verdict just as soon as it is arrived at. It may not be quite as bad as we fear now.

By the way, Watts was 2-3 weeks last week. What is going on here. How long term an injury is this. Clearly also Garland and Bate didn't pull up quite as well from their run at Casey as first indicated as they are still on the injued list

As of now, this is the official injury list on the MFC website:

Injury list as at 4 March 2010

-Aaron Davey – Adductor Soreness – 1 week

- Cameron Bruce – Hamstring – 1 week

- Matthew Bate – Quad – 1 week

- Colin Garland – Foot – 1 week

- Neville Jetta – Groin – 1-2 weeks

- Jack Watts – Back – 2-3 weeks

- Sam Blease – Ankle – 2-3 weeks

- Paul Johnson – Foot – 5 weeks

- Cale Morton – Knee – 8-10 weeks

- John Meesen – Ankle – Indefinite

- Max Gawn – Knee – Indefinite

- Luke Tapscott – Hip – Indefinite

The only info on LJ says Bell out for 6 weeks, Jurrah is still being considered. In my experience in these things often several medical opinions are sought and options considered. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case here. I'm sure given the supporters' concerns they would post the verdict just as soon as it is arrived at. It may not be quite as bad as we fear now.

By the way, Watts was 2-3 weeks last week. What is going on here. How long term an injury is this. Clearly also Garland and Bate didn't pull up quite as well from their run at Casey as first indicated as they are still on the injued list

Wasnt that last weeks injury list, 4th march?

Was hoping for 6-10 Weeks. 12-16 Weeks if true is really really disappointing. Wish the club would

give us some news and announce how long. I know their covering all bases i just hate waiting.

I he's going under the knife tomorrow,,,, then,,, how would they know, accurately, till after the surgery???

Better to wait till they have the surgeons first hand advice after inspecting & repairing the joint.

Then the club can report back accurately, to us fans.

Wasnt that last weeks injury list, 4th march?

I think your right. So a few of those guys should be ok to take on West Coast this week. I'm sure Watts cant be far off. I saw him training at the junction oval a couple of weeks back and he was going flat out. Would be good to see him play at least one game before round 1.

For years I had an unstable shoulder whereby continuously popped out when moved in the wrong direction.

I tried every exercise to try strengthen the ligaments however ended up biting the bullet and undergoing surgery.

I underwent arthroscopic surgery to tighten the ligaments in June 2009. It was the most painful experience of my life and incapacitated me for a good 3 months.

I Was in a sling for 8 weeks and only started proper weights training 6 months later.

If LJ undergoes a similar operation he will be lucky to play a game this year.

The positive is that my shoulder is 10 times better now than it was before (even though the surgeon advised me not to play physical sport) and am confidant with movements above my head.

Poor shoulders for a footballer is a disastrous scenario unless you are a midfielder that can get away without much overhead marking i.e Judd.

To a leading forward however, could be career hampering. Think Nick Holland who had his career cut short.

Lets keep our fingers crossed that the prognosis is better.

For years I had an unstable shoulder whereby continuously popped out when moved in the wrong direction.

I tried every exercise to try strengthen the ligaments however ended up biting the bullet and undergoing surgery.

I underwent arthroscopic surgery to tighten the ligaments in June 2009. It was the most painful experience of my life and incapacitated me for a good 3 months.

I Was in a sling for 8 weeks and only started proper weights training 6 months later.

If LJ undergoes a similar operation he will be lucky to play a game this year.

The positive is that my shoulder is 10 times better now than it was before (even though the surgeon advised me not to play physical sport) and am confidant with movements above my head.

Poor shoulders for a footballer is a disastrous scenario unless you are a midfielder that can get away without much overhead marking i.e Judd.

To a leading forward however, could be career hampering. Think Nick Holland who had his career cut short.

Lets keep our fingers crossed that the prognosis is better.

The difference between your case and LJ though, is that his rehabilitation process will most likely be far more rigorous and supervised. Whereas you may have seen the physio once or twice a week at most (possibly even only once a fortnight or once a month if you weren't as serious), LJ will have people at his disposal almost every day of the week. Though I agree that 12 weeks is optimistic, a return mid-late season 14-16 weeks away is not out of the question. But considering our record of late, I daresay we ill be conservative with LJ.

Also to think about is that his attitude towards his rehab will help determine when he can return. Considering the vast cultural difference of LJ's background, his lack of previous injuries and probably inexperience with interacting with the medical profession, it will be interesting to see how he approaches this challenge. He will need to have a lot of help from his team-mates and the club to get through this and back ono the field.

Agree... For every session I did LJ will do 5.

I think 4 months is probable...

I wonder how much his unstable shoulder was playing on his mind in the other pre season games.

Could explain his lack of performance.

Hopefully the fact that LJ is having his ligaments tightened immediately will mean that the irritation and damage which may result from his joint constantly popping out, won't occur. I want to see Liam reaching up with one hand and plucking the ball out of the air with no hindrance from a clunky shoulder injury.

I am devastated by this news however! There is no rhyme nor reason, no karma, its just dreadful luck that our most sparkling player is struck down by such an injury. Just as he is about to blossom. He is the jewel in our team and one of the reasons to go and see the Dees. As Neale Daniher once said, "Footy sucks sometimes!" He was right. It just seems that it sucks much more for Dees supporters a lot of the time. If I was a religious person I would pray right now. As I'm not, I'll just have to scream and bang my fists on the floor.

Hopefully the fact that LJ is having his ligaments tightened immediately will mean that the irritation and damage which may result from his joint constantly popping out, won't occur. I want to see Liam reaching up with one hand and plucking the ball out of the air with no hindrance from a clunky shoulder injury.

I am devastated by this news however! There is no rhyme nor reason, no karma, its just dreadful luck that our most sparkling player is struck down by such an injury. Just as he is about to blossom. He is the jewel in our team and one of the reasons to go and see the Dees. As Neale Daniher once said, "Footy sucks sometimes!" He was right. It just seems that it sucks much more for Dees supporters a lot of the time. If I was a religious person I would pray right now. As I'm not, I'll just have to scream and bang my fists on the floor.

Actually, maybe there is some Karma. Who was it on this forum, or was it 'ology, who was recently censured for publicly celebrating Morton's injury? Have the football gods punished us all for his sins?

I notice that most posts seem to be talking about recurring injuries, strengthening of ligaments, etc etc... but is there any possibility that this could have been a freak occurrence that can be put down to the way he landed and it is something that may not happen again? Is it possible that the time being taken by the club is in looking closely at sucvh a possibility with surgery as a last resort?

I am certainly no expert on such matters, but I thought I would throw my thoughts out there in the face of the current bout of negativity

Poor shoulders for a footballer is a disastrous scenario unless you are a midfielder that can get away without much overhead marking i.e Judd.

To a leading forward however, could be career hampering. Think Nick Holland who had his career cut short.

Lets keep our fingers crossed that the prognosis is better.

Dont lose hope, we may be without LJ for awhile. But the great Wayne Carey stuffed both his shoulders before the age of 20, and hes the best overhead ive ever seen.

We just have to wait and see what happens

Shoulder reco

Shoulder reco

What does that mean? 3 months off?

Shoulder reco

Is that referring to Jurrah's rehab? If so, what's the source? We want details here!

Shoulder Reconstruction

A shoulder reconstruction is the operation used to stabilise the shoulder and prevent it from dislocating.

Often it is performed as an end-of-season procedure in football players. The minimum recovery period is 5-6 months.

When is a shoulder reconstructed needed?

A shoulder reconstruction is definitely needed for recurrent instability if an athlete is returning to the sport where the instability is occurring. Rarely, people can get instability on everyday activities (e.g. rolling over in bed) and in this case certainly need a reconstruction. This is because even though the shoulder may relocate easily, it is likely that permanent damage can result from uncorrected recurrent instability

Lets hope its not that bad then.

Shoulder Reconstruction

A shoulder reconstruction is the operation used to stabilise the shoulder and prevent it from dislocating.

Often it is performed as an end-of-season procedure in football players. The minimum recovery period is 5-6 months.

In other words he is out for the 2010 season, is that right ?

prob see him round 16 onwards...

prob see him round 16 onwards...

well, if the minimum recovery time, as you say, is 5-6 months, that takes it until mid-august at best. rd 16 would be best case scenario, wouldn't it ?

prob see him round 16 onwards...

You would rather let him have the season off and get him primed for next year. Were did you get this info?

As long as he's back for the finals, that's all I care.

Rather him be fresh and ready for the 2011 preseason.

Have I missed something?

Where has it been announced that LJ needs a shoulder reco?

Any links or sources?