Soon we will have 5 ruckmen on our list

With all the talk of a Jamar trade back to SA in trade week, will it possibly happen next year?

Maybe we were preparing for the trade by drafting 2 ruckmen?

Also Adelaide have a surplus of KPFs so it could pan out well for us...

Soon we will have 5 ruckmen on our list

With all the talk of a Jamar trade back to SA in trade week, will it possibly happen next year?

Maybe we were preparing for the trade by drafting 2 ruckmen?

Also Adelaide have a surplus of KPFs so it could pan out well for us...

Apart from on here, or perhaps Big Footy have you ever heard the club or Jamar say he wants to go back to Adelaide?

nope

that's all i have to go on

way to answer a question with a question

Soon we will have 5 ruckmen on our list

With all the talk of a Jamar trade back to SA in trade week, will it possibly happen next year?

Maybe we were preparing for the trade by drafting 2 ruckmen?

Also Adelaide have a surplus of KPFs so it could pan out well for us...

I would have to say it is quite possible. Jamar did only sign for 1 year!

He will be 27 next year and will be looking for a more secure contract (3 years) which we all know Melbourne will only offer maximum 2 you would think. I can see the Gold Coast, Port and possibly Adelaide very interested!

GC can take one uncontracted player from each club. Is Jamar it? Or could we trade him for one of there early picks. I think they have Picks 1-5.

I think we might see Jamar going to GC or Port. Petterd is likely to be at GC also.

I would have to say it is quite possible. Jamar did only sign for 1 year!

He will be 27 next year and will be looking for a more secure contract (3 years) which we all know Melbourne will only offer maximum 2 you would think. I can see the Gold Coast, Port and possibly Adelaide very interested!

GC can take one uncontracted player from each club. Is Jamar it? Or could we trade him for one of there early picks. I think they have Picks 1-5.

I think we might see Jamar going to GC or Port. Petterd is likely to be at GC also.

you can add Brad Miller to this list as he also signed a one year deal....i can see him being the player GC17 take from our list, they will need some leadership and big bodies to help them through their early years

We've not long finished Trade Week with all the ridiculous speculation about players being traded and delisted, and with 12 months to go it's starting again.

Can't we at least wait until the season is half over?

Jamar may have signed a one year contract to align him with some of the other contracts that expire at the end of next year.

We've not long finished Trade Week with all the ridiculous speculation about players being traded and delisted, and with 12 months to go it's starting again.

Can't we at least wait until the season is half over?

Jamar may have signed a one year contract to align him with some of the other contracts that expire at the end of next year.

The season is over.

I think we have some aspiring list manager's with us....there is already a thread on a phantom draft.

Unless Meesen or PJ improve significantly then I hope not, they would both be under the hammer come Oct. 2010.

Soon we will have 5 ruckmen on our list

With all the talk of a Jamar trade back to SA in trade week, will it possibly happen next year?

Maybe we were preparing for the trade by drafting 2 ruckmen?

Also Adelaide have a surplus of KPFs so it could pan out well for us...

Jamar is under-estermatered and is set for a big year, he will finish his career at MFC. After next season, i personally think Jamar will be consider one of the best ruck's in the compition.

the others will fight out next season, to be seacond ruck. And also to take over mantle of 1st ruck, from Jamar's retirement in the future.

If Jamar is fit and shows the form of 2009 consistently then he is safe. At this point he is our only valid ruck option.

PJ is in the gun and his future is uncertain. Meesen is finished.

Spencer, GAWN and Fitz are all green, 20 years or under but will take time to develop. I can see Martin developing as a pinch hitting ruck.

Numbers wise I think we have the ruck numbers right on the list. Its the quality of some more experienced players than have me worried.

Jamar will still be the only AFL grade ruckman on our list in 2010. Unless he has a year that is a complete catastrophe, he'll be safe at the end of it.

If Jamar has a good year then he needs to be retained on the list. PJ should be delisted come years end and Meeson still needs to prove himself. Other than that we only have raw youngsters so it would be not be a good idea to get rid of Jamar.

Jamar will still be the only AFL grade ruckman on our list in 2010. Unless he has a year that is a complete catastrophe, he'll be safe at the end of it.

I'm more bothered about PA making him an offer after next season that he really can't refuse, especially if he has a good year. And about the possibility that him being given only a 1-year contract was for this very purpose.

Edited November 28, 200915 yr by Akum

It wont be up to us if we keep him. Unless we offer him a deal he cant refuse.

It will be upto him if he wants to leave!

I was thinking about that a while ago.

I can't see Jamar being of great value to a possible premiership as he'll be getting towards 30 by the time we're aiming for the flag.

I'd prefer to trade Jamar next year, get something of value for him. Hopefully a mid 2nd round pick or something from the Gold Coast.

I think we could use that to add another midfielder. Imagine if we could've traded Jamar this year and picked up someone like Bastinac this year.

Numbers wise I think we have the ruck numbers right on the list. Its the quality of some more experienced players than have me worried.

Would any these players be:

Jones

Bruce

Moloney

Rivers

by any chance??

Not a fan of Jamar, I can only recall 1 game where he performed and kicked 5 goals, besides that I always cringe whenever I see him with the ball. The only good point about him is he has good size about him.

... I never thought I would see the day where we would have issues in picking our 22!!! I love where this is going, I would like to have seen Grimes & Patrick on our list.

He's the more traditional tap ruckman, rather than a ruckman/midfielder like Ryder, Clarke and Cox.

He'll be useful in the future when our midfield is improved, however, it just depends on whether we want to trade him for a younger player next year, and hope that one or two of Spencer, Meesen, PJ and Gawn improves and will fill the number one ruck spot, or hold on to him as he's the best ruckman at the club.

does anyone know if GC 17 have a ruckman lined up? Given that they can take 4-5 years to develop I would guess that they would be keen on having a senior ruckman ready to play round 1 rather than rely on draftees. could this be a risk/option?

PJ and Meesen also see out the end of their contracts next year, as does rookie Spencer.

Jamar would be the first of our ruckmen to look to keep, discounting the two new guys.

I'm not sure why a one year deal came into it, it's quite possible that both the club and Jamar/Jamar's management felt it was fair to go with on year given that he had clearly improved his performance this year, yet didn't get to deliver decisively because of injury. It's possible that this year will be spent assessing what the next, longer, contract should be.

As for Gold Coast, Miller, Spencer, Petterd and Bail all hail from Queensland, and I think they are all out of contract next year. Miller would seem a great fit for them. Possibly with a pick swap and us getting Dylan Grimes (Surely GC will collect him with one of their 5 starting rookie picks)

I think Nasher's on the money. Spencer's probably the best prospect with any chance of playing regular footy in 2011, but I wouldn't be putting the house on it. Even if he makes it, the cupboard is still very bare.

PJ hasn't shown he can play 'first ruck' and doesn't have another string to his bow that you need to be a relief ruckman. Meesen's shown even less and, given he was removed from the primary list, the Club clearly isn't too concerned about the prospect of losing him.

As for the 2009 draftees, Gawn will still be years away. Fitzpatrick will also be a long way off, and isn't necessarily a number one ruck prospect anyway - if he makes the grade it could just as easily be as a forward.

Jamar stays, and PJ goes.

Spencer probably will get more game time in 2010; I know I'd rather see Spencer playing than PJ.

Picking up a 208cm ruckman puts the other ruck options on borrowed time as far as I'm concerned, great midfielders can easily compensate for average to poor ruckmen. I think the rucks we already have will need to prove their worth in other positions to stay on the list, tall forward probably being the obvious one.

So Gawn at 206cm is the messiah, but Spencer at 203 is a spud?

Spencer will play 2010 as a 20 year old. He's unfashionable, but I think that clouds people's opinions of him. If he had a smooth kicking action then I doubt that you'd be able to shut people up about his potential.

Edited November 30, 200915 yr by Axis of Bob

PJ hasn't shown he can play 'first ruck'

I think PJ has played his best footy when he has been the sole or #1 ruckman in the side.

When he's in a rotation or 2nd choice ruckman he's been ineffective.