Emma Quayle's article on tanking

[Norm Smith 0]

Thanks for the welcome.

Good call about the Christian website. :-) Yes, sorry, i didn't mean to use the Lord's name in vein, just wanted a serious name to suit the topic.

Maybe should have gone with Simply Simon Eishold - more my speed!

Am delighted with the new look squad for the swans game esp. the blooding of Mc Kenzie and the re-inclusion of Cheney, who i think will be well served by getting games under his belt

in fact all the ins were good.

and glad it looks like they are being sensible/conservative with the likes of Brock etc.

i hope Newton is played for the rest of the season and takes a few televised speccies and kicks a few goals. he could be a tradable young KPP. Miller's from Qld and could perhaps be traded north next year.

[Binmans PA 26,315]

i hope Newton is played for the rest of the season and takes a few televised speccies and kicks a few goals. he could be a tradable young KPP.

By this statement, I take it you think he won't make it as a suitable MFC KPP? Even if he improved his kicking?

[Carn dees 108]

By this statement, I take it you think he won't make it as a suitable MFC KPP? Even if he improved his kicking?

Personally newton has good attributes that suggest he could be an ok keyforward, great leap pretty good speed and can take good contested marks.

Its his mental game and footy smart that let him down.

He can kick for goal because i remember dean bailey say he practices all week and ussually gets em, its the mental part that gets him.

[Vipercrunch 2,817]

I spent a couple of hours today reading through all the 'tanking' threads that popped up here while I was away this week.

I think I am far too conflicted on the issue to compose a post that wont contradict itself from one sentence to the next. I don't think I will waste my energy attempting to argue for one side or the other. I would make a mockery of it.

But I will say a couple of things. I thought for the most part it was the same old arguments I've read all this season with the weekly dose of priority pick/tanking threads. I'm sure there will be more and more of them over the coming weeks. I think the arguments go round in circles and nobody gives any ground. In the end though, it doesn't matter what we think or hope for. It's in the clubs hands.

I've had a foot in both camps for pretty much the whole season. I can't help it. I can't go to games hoping to lose, willing against my club, especially such a young group giving their all. I guess I am logically crippled by the immediate passion for the contest.

At the same time, the thought of adding both Scully and another quality youngster leaves me a little breathless. I think the club has a great opportunity before it. Whether we take advantage of it remains to be seen.

All I know is the system stinks. No supporter group should be put through this anxiety and compromise.

I think there is one thing that is true. And that is, if we haven't drafted well over the recent years, adding Scully won't make a lick of difference. If we have botched 2007 and 2008 and don't draft well in the upcoming draft, getting Scully won't win us a flag. Drafting and list development isn't merely a matter of cherry picking the top youngsters, it's about drafting well deep into drafts. This is what we have to have done and do. From what I have seen of our recent draft picks so far, I am optimistic about our future and believe in the coming years we will look back at these recent drafts with praise, and I have no doubt adding Scully and another young talent will only make the chances of the club winning the elusive 13th flag a firmer reality.

But in the end, we need a premiership quality list, not merely a few premiership quality players.

It's a little late, but I wanted to add that this sums up my feelings also. Logically (and morally to some extent) crippled.

I hope we get what most people think we deserve in the Priority Pick. I shudder to imagine the response from some people here if we get out tanked by other less deserving teams.

[jackie_moon 0]

Personally newton has good attributes that suggest he could be an ok keyforward, great leap pretty good speed and can take good contested marks.

Its his mental game and footy smart that let him down.

He can kick for goal because i remember dean bailey say he practices all week and ussually gets em, its the mental part that gets him.

yeah, the poor fella has probably read a few of the posts on here. i'd be a wreck too if i was on our list. we're a harsh lot to impress.

plenty of the talent and has all the attributes. that is what is so fricking frustrating. Tear my hair out everytime he plays cos he can do it, but he can't!!! He could be a gun.

But that's melbourne isn't it?

Promise the world, deliver an atlas....

[Rogue 585]

Same source Rhino. But I'm looking at 2008 not 2007 bro.

:D

[H_T 2,941]

I hope we get what most people think we deserve in the Priority Pick. I shudder to imagine the response from some people here if we get out tanked by other less deserving teams.

No one could imagine that, nor the consequences in the aftermath. Hopefully it doesn't occur. You would think with Richmond and North both on 4.5 wins (out of contention for priority pick) now - Rawlings and Crocker would have them playing to win and finish the year in good form with some wins. They both will be tough to beat no matter what side Melbourne fields.

[rpfc 27,591]

It's a little late, but I wanted to add that this sums up my feelings also. Logically (and morally to some extent) crippled.

I hope we get what most people think we deserve in the Priority Pick. I shudder to imagine the response from some people here if we get out tanked by other less deserving teams.

I understand your conflicted.

But, just on this bolded part: we have lost 50 games since 2007.

The PP was invented to help basket cases like us.

I would feel aggrieved and disappointed with the club if we got our 53rd loss against St Kilda in Rd 22 and not our 54th loss - because it would be the MFC not letting the system help it out of its funk.