2009 NAB U-18 National Champs @ Etihad Stadium

[dee-luded 2,958]

He's always had an awkward style in the way he kicks the ball, this is not going to change. His efficiency by foot has been very good in recent weeks.

Id be more worried about how your man Bartram kicks the ball.

Yes I know he's been good this year, but didn't you notice when he was chased hard out of defence, he butchered the kick under pressure a couple of times. This was one of the first times I've watched him being chased with the ball in a high intensity pressure, & I saw him flail the ball.

In 3 or 4 years time when we are playing regular finals games this will be a problem. He needs to start to rectify this technique problem ASAP.

Edited July 10, 2009 by dee-luded

[dee-luded 2,958]

Seemed like Talia was amongst Metro's best in all but the opening game against Country. May have even been swung forward for one of the games? Very impressed with his marking and run he provided. Another to watch in the back end o the TAC Cup season. Carlisle is a fair chance to be around with our second round pick, and would be happy to get Griffith's or maybe even Pitt here.

James Craig looked good in the ruck for SA, McCartney rated him as the best performed ruck for the champs.

I saw J Craig against NSW & was impressed with his play, there was a couple who looked allright, S Day, Scotty Lycett played in a pocket, but this boy is a 202cm ruckman with intelligence, footy smarts & time, athletic & agile. He looked the goods to me but I didn't see them put him on the ball??? Hiding him a little??? Very polished young player.

[Dannyz 2,317]

How unimpressive was Butcher.

KPF or not, we must say no. Scully is the man.

[ChaserJ 3,964]

I saw J Craig against NSW & was impressed with his play, there was a couple who looked allright, S Day, Scotty Lycett played in a pocket, but this boy is a 202cm ruckman with intelligence, footy smarts & time, athletic & agile. He looked the goods to me but I didn't see them put him on the ball??? Hiding him a little??? Very polished young player.

I thought Lycett was bottom aged and only eligible for draft next year.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Are you kidding me?? Our defence is the only line at the mo which is solid and has potential. We have TOO MANY tall defenders, Ill almost throw in my membership if we recuited another...

My guess @ 2012 side - rotations of positions as needed.

* Bs: Cheney - Warnock - Frawley

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H/Bs: Garland - Martin - Grimes

......: Strauss - McNamara - Bennell

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C/L..: Davey - McLean - Blease

......: Sylvia - Grimes - Morton

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H/F..: Sylvia - Watts - Bate

F/F..: Wonna - ??????? - Jurrah

Rck..: Jamar - ?Moloney - Scully

Int..: Jones, Dunn, Green, Viney, Spencer, colyer?, McKenzie, Jetta,,,

Edited July 10, 2009 by dee-luded

[dee-luded 2,958]

I thought Lycett was bottom aged and only eligible for draft next year.

I wasn't studying draft elegibility but just footy prowess.

(even more exciting if thats the case) will keep a watch on his future then.)

Edited July 10, 2009 by dee-luded

[Carn dees 108]

My guess @ 2012 side - rotations of positions as needed.

* Bs: Cheney - Warnock - Frawley

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H/Bs: Garland - Martin - Grimes

......: Strauss - McNamara - Bennell

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C/L..: Davey - McLean - Blease

......: Sylvia - Grimes - Morton

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H/F..: Sylvia - Watts - Bate

F/F..: Wonna - ??????? - Jurrah

Rck..: Jamar - ?Moloney - Scully

Int..: Jones, Dunn, Green, Viney, Spencer, colyer?, McKenzie, Jetta,,,

MARIC!!!!

high hopes for this kid!

[dee-luded 2,958]

MARIC!!!!

high hopes for this kid!

I hope your right.

[Hannabal 4]

What I mean is a genuine Key position sized body who will play a genuine Key Position, forward & back.

Garland is a great player but I don't see him in that Key full time.

He looks to me as a player you pick every week to perform special tasks, sometimes on a nimble small forward or your standard half back flank role or to play on those pacy roaming talls like Riewoldt & Richardson etc. I think he would have been a good one to adapt on a player like James Hird.

I don't see him as a genuine tall

You don't see Garland as a genuine tall, but you like Talia because he could be the next "Paul Roos" ? By your definition, Paul Roos wasn't a genuine tall because he was 188cms; Garland is 191cms - taller than McNamara. You claim Garland can do "special tasks" from playing "on a nimble small forward or your standard half back flank role or to play on those pacy roaming talls like Riewoldt & Richardson etc", yet you don't see him as a tall ? He's also done well on Franklin.

Garland is the modern day prototype running tall. We've got Frawley who was able to outbody Lloyd on occasions, Warnock for similar bulk forwards, and Garland who like Rivers has the uncanny ability to get his fist on the ball at the last moment without infringing. Warnock lacks class, but has improved immeasurably over the last couple of years and bear in mind that the days of the "gorilla" forwards is presently just about shot.

I think I know what you're trying to say, but I don't agree.

[Maric Legend 0]

Just adding that Hayden Jolly for SA is my mate's cousin.

Looks like he'll be a good player, but I havent had a chance to watch any of the U18s with lack of Foxtel and being in Adelaide. Unfortunately, looks like he'll definitely be going to the Gold Coast, mate's spewing saying he could be a hell high pick - if not for the AFL screwing the draft.

[Ryan Dee 140]

My guess @ 2012 side - rotations of positions as needed.

* Bs: Cheney - Warnock - Frawley

-----------------------------------

H/Bs: Garland - Martin - Grimes

......: Strauss - McNamara - Bennell

------------------------------------

C/L..: Davey - McLean - Blease

......: Sylvia - Grimes - Morton

------------------------------------

H/F..: Sylvia - Watts - Bate

F/F..: Wonna - ??????? - Jurrah

Rck..: Jamar - ?Moloney - Scully

Int..: Jones, Dunn, Green, Viney, Spencer, colyer?, McKenzie, Jetta,,,

Nice side....but really we would have no idea what the side will look like.

[Guest]

I thought Lycett was bottom aged and only eligible for draft next year.

Yeh he's probably off to the gold coast with one of their picks

[dee-luded 2,958]

You don't see Garland as a genuine tall, but you like Talia because he could be the next "Paul Roos" ? By your definition, Paul Roos wasn't a genuine tall because he was 188cms; Garland is 191cms - taller than McNamara. You claim Garland can do "special tasks" from playing "on a nimble small forward or your standard half back flank role or to play on those pacy roaming talls like Riewoldt & Richardson etc", yet you don't see him as a tall ? He's also done well on Franklin.

Garland is the modern day prototype running tall. We've got Frawley who was able to outbody Lloyd on occasions, Warnock for similar bulk forwards, and Garland who like Rivers has the uncanny ability to get his fist on the ball at the last moment without infringing. Warnock lacks class, but has improved immeasurably over the last couple of years and bear in mind that the days of the "gorilla" forwards is presently just about shot.

I think I know what you're trying to say, but I don't agree.

I stick by what I said, eg, I could see him being an option on a Pavlich when Pav was playing up near the middle lead up high. But if he drew him to the Goal square & played deep, we'd be slaughtered.

He can play well on the talls who are playing a ranging running role up near the midfield, richardson last year or Buddy last year, but near goal & I'd want Warnock or Frawley on them.

I see him as a half back flanker, or forward of there mostly. If he where to put on too much weight he'd lose a lot of that fantastic agility & balance he has.

[dee-luded 2,958]

You don't see Garland as a genuine tall, but you like Talia because he could be the next "Paul Roos" ? By your definition, Paul Roos wasn't a genuine tall because he was 188cms; Garland is 191cms - taller than McNamara. You claim Garland can do "special tasks" from playing "on a nimble small forward or your standard half back flank role or to play on those pacy roaming talls like Riewoldt & Richardson etc", yet you don't see him as a tall ? He's also done well on Franklin.

Garland is the modern day prototype running tall. We've got Frawley who was able to outbody Lloyd on occasions, Warnock for similar bulk forwards, and Garland who like Rivers has the uncanny ability to get his fist on the ball at the last moment without infringing. Warnock lacks class, but has improved immeasurably over the last couple of years and bear in mind that the days of the "gorilla" forwards is presently just about shot.

I think I know what you're trying to say, but I don't agree.

Warnock was the right matchup for Lloyd & Frawley should have played on Lucas who drifted up to high forward many times, perfect place for Frawley to run off him.

Frawley will bulk up & be a key position player.

[Hannabal 4]

I stick by what I said

And I.