Clarification on Priority Picks

[mordja 187]

If any club gets priority picks this year, how will they work, holding in mind Gold Coast picks?

Here's hoping its not an issue and we start winning a few, but thanks to anyone who can clear it up for me.

Cheers

[John Dee 445]

Gold Coast do not get any picks in the draft this year. The only change to this years draft is that the draft age has gone up by some four months; Gold Coast can earmark some (20?) of these 17 year-olds. Gold Coast will make out like bandits in 2010, West Sydney a couple of years later. Any club that is bottomming out in the next five to six years is stuffed; we have just made it by the skin of out teeth.

[H_T 3,049]

Gold Coast do not get any picks in the draft this year. The only change to this years draft is that the draft age has gone up by some four months; Gold Coast can earmark some (20?) of these 17 year-olds. Gold Coast will make out like bandits in 2010, West Sydney a couple of years later. Any club that is bottomming out in the next five to six years is stuffed; we have just made it by the skin of out teeth.

Earmarked = 12 x 17yo I believe.

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

Undeeniable: Are you sure this is true? I seem to remember reading in the paper that GC received a large percentage of the first rounds picks. My memory was they received something like 2,3,4,67,10...... Are they only allowed to pick up 17yo with these picks?

What I am certain about is that if Melbourne comes lasts and fails to win at least 5 games, Melbourne will receive the #1 pick + Priority Pick (at the beginning of the 1st round as two seasons of under 5 wins). In other words if we fail to win 5 games we will receive the 1st and 2nd pick.

[Redleg 41,629]

Undeeniable: Are you sure this is true? I seem to remember reading in the paper that GC received a large percentage of the first rounds picks. My memory was they received something like 2,3,4,67,10...... Are they only allowed to pick up 17yo with these picks?

What I am certain about is that if Melbourne comes lasts and fails to win at least 5 games, Melbourne will receive the #1 pick + Priority Pick (at the beginning of the 1st round as two seasons of under 5 wins). In other words if we fail to win 5 games we will receive the 1st and 2nd pick.

First the Gold Coast only get into the main draft next year. They do get access to the 17 year olds this year.

Correct on the second point. 4 wins or less and if we are on the bottom we get the first two picks in this year's draft.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Undeeniable: Are you sure this is true? I seem to remember reading in the paper that GC received a large percentage of the first rounds picks. My memory was they received something like 2,3,4,67,10...... Are they only allowed to pick up 17yo with these picks?

What I am certain about is that if Melbourne comes lasts and fails to win at least 5 games, Melbourne will receive the #1 pick + Priority Pick (at the beginning of the 1st round as two seasons of under 5 wins). In other words if we fail to win 5 games we will receive the 1st and 2nd pick.

AFL Releases Draft Details for GC17 - Thursday, 4 September 2008

AFL Chief Executive Officer Andrew Demetriou today said the AFL Commission had approved the NAB AFL Draft, NAB AFL Rookie Draft and AFL Player concessions that would be offered to the new Gold Coast team over the 2009 and 2010 years, for its entry to the AFL competition for the 2011 season.

Mr Demetriou said the Commission had approved the recommendations of the List Development working group at its monthly meeting in Melbourne last week, and these rules were forwarded to the 16 AFL clubs, and GC17, earlier today.

Mr Demetriou said the working group had comprised both AFL and club representatives, incorporating experts within the game from across club management, list development and talent identification.

“The working group met through May, June, July and August, as well as meeting with each AFL club and consulting with its CEO, Football Manager, Recruiting Manager and Senior Coach,” Mr Demetriou said.

“The group also took written submissions from each club. The two broad objectives of its recommendations to the AFL commission were that GC17 should be able to assemble a competitive list on its entry to the competition in 2011, coupled with minimising the downside and making available trade and draft opportunities to the existing 16 AFL clubs,” he said.

Mr Demetriou said the AFL Commission had required a close examination of how the lists were compiled for each of the last five clubs to enter the AFL Competition – West Coast (1987), Brisbane Bears (1987), Adelaide (1991), Fremantle (1995) and Port Adelaide (1997).

It was the view of the Commission that the rules put in place had to achieve a balance between GC17 having enough mature players on entry to the competition to be competitive but not trading away its access to future talent.

“There was a comprehensive examination of the entry lists and early performances of each of the recent new clubs to the competition – West Coast, Brisbane Bears, Adelaide, Fremantle and Port Adelaide,” Mr Demetriou said.

“There is a clear trend in AFL football that first year players are now playing fewer AFL games and that the physical gap between players entering the system and those players already at AFL clubs has never been greater.

“It is the consensus view of AFL clubs across the competition that it takes three to four years of development for most players to adapt to AFL level and that the successful composition of a strong club list can take five to eight years.

“The rules for GC17 had to reflect both the capacity for the club to have access to older players in its initial entry and access to talent to develop a long-term competitive group,” he said.

The Entry Rules for GC17 will be as follows:

1. 2009 NAB AFL Draft:

GC17 to have the capacity to sign 12 x 17 year-olds born in the January – April window (Jan-April 1992).

2. 2010 NAB AFL Draft:

GC17 to have Pick One in Each Round.

GC 17 to have Picks 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15 in Round One.

3. 2009 NAB Rookie Draft:

GC17 to have Selections 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.

4. 2010 NAB Rookie Draft

GC17 to alternate Queensland priority selections with Brisbane Lions. GC17 to have first selection.

5. Zoned Access

GC17 to have zoned access to up to five Queensland players prior to each of 2010, 2011 and 2012 NAB AFL Drafts.

GC17 to have zoned access to up to three Northern Territory player prior to the 2010 NAB AFL Draft

6. 2010 Post Season, AFL Listed Played Access

GC17 to have capacity to pre-list 10 players who had previously nominated for the AFL Draft, or were previously listed with an AFL club.

GC17 to have capacity to sign up to 16 uncontracted players.

Mr Demetriou said GC17 would also have an expanded list size and TPP allowance in the club’s initial four years from 2011 to 2014, which would be as follows:

2011 – 48 senior list, nine rookies with $1m TPP extra allowance;

2012 – 46 senior list, nine rookies with $800k TPP extra allowance;

2013 – 42 senior list, nine rookies with $600k TPP extra allowance;

2014 – 40 senior list, nine rookies with $400k TPP extra allowance;

2015 – 38 senior list, nine rookies in line with other AFL clubs.

While the Working Group considered an expanded list and allowance for the first three years, the AFL Commission accepted a recommendation from the executive that given the challenge of building a club, the list and allowance should phase out over four years.

Further, as part of the entry rules for the GC17 side, Mr Demetriou said the AFL Commission had resolved that any club that lost a player to the expansion side would be eligible for a compensation pick (after the entry of both GC17 and the second club to be based in Sydney ).

Compensation picks will be tradeable and can be used by clubs at any time within five years . First round compensation picks can not be used until the end of the first round in the 2010 and 2011 drafts. Clubs will be required to nominate the year in which they plan to use the compensation pick before the first round of the Toyota AFL Premiership Season in that particular year.

The compensatory pick would be assessed around the player’s age (greater weighting for younger players), club contract ranking (greater weighting for club key players), on field performance (greater weighting for strong club best and fairest performance) and draft position if less than four years experience.

This ranking system will then determine if a club is eligible for a compensatory pick in one of five spots -- first round pick, end of first round pick, second round pick, end of second round pick or third round pick. Under the model, the round one, round two or round three picks would be taken immediately after the pick the club already has in that round in the draft that year.

Please find attached below an example of how the 2010 NAB AFL Draft would look, under these concession rules.

The List Management Group was: Andrew Dillon (Chairman, AFL General Manager Legal and Business Affairs), Graeme Allan (Brisbane Lions FC Football Operations Manager), Adrian Anderson (AFL General Manager Football Operations), Derek Hine (Collingwood FC Recruiting Manager), Andrew Ireland (Sydney Swans FC Football Operations Manager), David Matthews (AFL General Manager National and International Development), Tony Peek (AFL Assistant to CEO), Ian Robson (Hawthorn FC CEO), Cameron Schwab (former Fremantle FC CEO), Kevin Sheehan (AFL National Talent Manager), Steven Trigg (Adelaide FC CEO), Stephen Wells (Geelong FC Recruiting Manager).

2010 NAB AFL Draft: (Example Draft Order before trading)

Round One

1 GC17

2 GC17

3 GC17

4 Club 16 on 2010 ladder

5 GC17

6 Club 15 on 2010 ladder

7 GC17

8 Club 14 on 2010 ladder

9 GC17

10 Club 13 on 2010 ladder

11 GC17

12 Club 12 on 2010 ladder

13 GC17

14 Club 11 on 2010 ladder

15 GC17

16 Club 10 on 2010 ladder

17 Club 9 on 2010 ladder

18 Club 8 on 2010 ladder

19 Club 7 on 2010 ladder

20 Club 6 on 2010 ladder

21 Club 5 on 2010 ladder

22 Club 4 on 2010 ladder

23 Club 3 on 2010 ladder

24 Club 2 on 2010 ladder

25 Club 1 on 2010 ladder

Round Two

26 GC17

27 Club 16 on 2010 ladder

28 Club 15 on 2010 ladder

29 Club 14 on 2010 ladder

30 Club 13 on 2010 ladder

31 Club 12 on 2010 ladder

32 Club 11 on 2010 ladder

33 Club 10 on 2010 ladder

34 Club 9 on 2010 ladder

35 Club 8 on 2010 ladder

36 Club 7 on 2010 ladder

37 Club 6 on 2010 ladder

38 Club 5 on 2010 ladder

39 Club 4 on 2010 ladder

40 Club 3 on 2010 ladder

41 Club 2 on 2010 ladder

42 Club 1 on 2010 ladder

Round Three

43 GC 17

44 Club 16 on 2010 ladder

45 Club 15 on 2010 ladder

46 Club 14 on 2010 ladder

47 Club 13 on 2010 ladder

48 Club 12 on 2010 ladder

49 Club 11 on 2010 ladder

50 Club 10 on 2010 ladder

51 Club 9 on 2010 ladder

52 Club 8 on 2010 ladder

53 Club 7 on 2010 ladder

54 Club 6 on 2010 ladder

55 Club 5 on 2010 ladder

56 Club 4 on 2010 ladder

57 Club 3 on 2010 ladder

58 Club 2 on 2010 ladder

59 Club 1 on 2010 ladder

[Guest unstable punt]

Gold Coast do not get any picks in the draft this year. The only change to this years draft is that the draft age has gone up by some four months; Gold Coast can earmark some (20?) of these 17 year-olds. Gold Coast will make out like bandits in 2010, West Sydney a couple of years later. Any club that is bottomming out in the next five to six years is stuffed; we have just made it by the skin of out teeth.

yep, we are the last team to be able to pick up No 1's for about 5 years

[mordja 187]

thanks all.

[H_T 3,049]

Picks 4, 26 and 44 if you finish 16th on the ladder in 2010.

thanks dee-luded for that in-depth post.