Can we deal with Richmond?

[Dee tention 611]

Can the Dee's deal with the Tiger's to gain their Pick 8?

Craig Cameron has mentioned they wont rule out trading for an over 25 player(s). As our ex-recruiting guy he nows our list and could be looking at our Demon's he recruited over the year's.

Any thoughts on a trade to get their Pick 8?

My thought - Bate and Green for Pick 8?

[Dee tention 611]

Dumb founded are we Demon fans? Cant anybody come up with something? Or you just want to keep the list we got? Rip down those posters of your heroe's and move on.

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,304]

Hmmm..

Bate and Green for 8th pick?? nah thanks..

Bate is pivotal to Bails' plan, and IMO a real big chance to take his game to another level..

Im still amazed at CC, how did he land this job?

Why does no one seem to hold him accountable for our list, what a joke he is..

Anyway, to get pick 8, this year, with concessions coming in, very very tough..

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Dumb founded are we Demon fans? Cant anybody come up with something? Or you just want to keep the list we got? Rip down those posters of your heroe's and move on.

Pretty sure that geelong and hawthorn didn't build up thier list by trading away thier most promising kids, they kept confidence in the guys that showed promise, even when they were inconsistent.

Dont throw the baby out with the bath water. Change is needed and it is happening.

[Dee tention 611]

Hmmm..

Bate and Green for 8th pick?? nah thanks..

Bate is pivotal to Bails' plan, and IMO a real big chance to take his game to another level..

Im still amazed at CC, how did he land this job?

Why does no one seem to hold him accountable for our list, what a joke he is..

Anyway, to get pick 8, this year, with concessions coming in, very very tough..

Is Bate pivotal to Bailey's plans? I dont know about that one. Was dropped at the end of season. Cant be too pivotal if he cant make a deplorable Demon's side. CC seem's to like him. Took him with our first pick in whatever draft it was.

[Dee tention 611]

Yes. Change is happening! And I think the Stynes led administration is doing a great job. Maybe let them trade and draft this season. Jimmy knows what he is doing!

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,304]

Pretty sure that geelong and hawthorn didn't build up thier list by trading away thier most promising kids, they kept confidence in the guys that showed promise, even when they were inconsistent.

Dont throw the baby out with the bath water. Change is needed and it is happening.

Very well said..

[Dee tention 611]

Pretty sure that geelong and hawthorn didn't build up thier list by trading away thier most promising kids, they kept confidence in the guys that showed promise, even when they were inconsistent.

Dont throw the baby out with the bath water. Change is needed and it is happening.

Hawthorn traded Croad and McPharlin! What do you say about that? Same situation.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Hawthorn traded Croad and McPharlin! What do you say about that? Same situation.

yeah it is similar. From memory just after that they went to shite for several years. And ended up getting Croad back for next to nothing.

Did they get a pick for that, and what pick and who was it?

[w00dy 146]

yeah it is similar. From memory just after that they went to shite for several years. And ended up getting Croad back for next to nothing.

Did they get a pick for that, and what pick and who was it?

number 1 pick i believe = Luke Hodge and could've been Chris Judd

as for dealing with Richmond, CC is likely to have his views on our players, but at the same time he never watched the MFC train or play much... his job was to be out looking at TAC cup football, watching the kids that were yet to come through... so while like all recruiting managers he would remember a lot about the kids before they were drafted, he wouldn't have in depth knowledge of our players development since...

if anything, CC might have a favourite which he would be willing to pay more than the market rate for...

the club that would have that knowledge is west coast, with ND assuming a football department position there...

[Dee tention 611]

They got Pick 1! And picked Luke Hodge. Gun.

Could of even had Juddy if they wanted too!

Hawthorn knew how good the 2003 Draft was and made the hard calls to get what they wanted.

Melbourne have to do the same. The 2008 Draft is full of talent. So we need too trade some riff raff for some top 20 picks. Enough said.

[two sheds jackson 3]

Except Bate isn't riff raff; at this stage he could still end up a better player than whoever goes at pick 8.

Wont happen. We wouldnt go for it, and neither would Richmond.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

They got Pick 1! And picked Luke Hodge. Gun.

Could of even had Juddy if they wanted too!

Hawthorn knew how good the 2003 Draft was and made the hard calls to get what they wanted.

Melbourne have to do the same. The 2008 Draft is full of talent. So we need too trade some riff raff for some top 20 picks. Enough said.

Hodge was taken in the 2001 super draft. Great deal if that was the case. But Hodge is only a piece of the pie and obviously it is 7 years later and they are having thier first crack at a premiership. They have developed thier list mostly from the ground up and traded away a number of thier mid age players for picks, excepting the deal that you mentioned.

We don't need to trade for the no 1 pick, we have it. Hopefully we develop a few stars from our early picks. And hopefully our young guys that are showing a bit become consistent players.

[Dee tention 611]

Having 2 Top 10 picks is like having 2 No 1's in this years draft. Most want Watts. I like Vickery. What about Rich and the rest. All could be No 1.

[Freak 100]

previous pick 8's

2000- daniel motlop

2001- bartel

2002- luke brennan

2003- raph clarke

2004- john meesen

2005- jarrad oakley-nicholls

2006- ben reid

2 guns, 5 duds. people over-rate draft picks

[jabberwocky 2,301]

previous pick 8's

2000- daniel motlop

2001- bartel

2002- luke brennan

2003- raph clarke

2004- john meesen

2005- jarrad oakley-nicholls

2006- ben reid

2 guns, 5 duds. people over-rate draft picks

i would take bate at his point over 5 of them, let alone green.

good post

[Dee tention 611]

I would take Pick 8. 2008 Draft is a great one! Probably better than 2001. And look who got taken at Pick 8 in 2001. Charlie Bartel! Gun's come from gun drafts. Enough said!

[jabberwocky 2,301]

I would take Pick 8. 2008 Draft is a great one! Probably better than 2001. And look who got taken at Pick 8 in 2001. Charlie Bartel! Gun's come from gun drafts. Enough said!

Mate easy with the "enough said". Its a forum, people reply, its how forums work.

I see your point but history says that over 50% of no. 8s are a miss and you want us to trade a good senior player and a genuine up and comer.

Not worth the risk. Trade the senior players and players that we have an oversupply of. That McPharlin/Croad trade happened because at the time the hawks were flush with KPPs.

Bate is the type of player that we may well need in our next finals tilt.

[Dee tention 611]

Just like a laugh champ! Thought I would get a reaction. I just have the feeling Bate might not fit in the plans of Bails. MasterBater has turned the world on fire! Has good value still. Especially with Richmond and Carlton I think. Craig Cameron/Brett Ratten and Mark O'Reilly connection.

[Courtney_Fish 183]

Any thoughts on a trade to get their Pick 8?

My thought - Bate and Green for Pick 8?

Why not give them pick 1 as well?

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,434]

My thought - Bate and Green for Pick 8?

I can honestly see us finishing 0-22 next year if that trade went ahead.

I'd want a border-line Richmond player with potential in return.

[H_T 2,941]

previous pick 8's

2000- daniel motlop

2001- bartel

2002- luke brennan

2003- raph clarke

2004- john meesen

2005- jarrad oakley-nicholls

2006- ben reid

2 guns, 5 duds. people over-rate draft picks

Hard to believe isn't it? Not a good strike rate at all for Pick 8.. The mind boggles sometimes.

PS. Who was pick 8 in 2007?

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Hard to believe isn't it? Not a good strike rate at all for Pick 8.. The mind boggles sometimes.

PS. Who was pick 8 in 2007?

Henderson went to Brisbane with pick 8.

I hope Bate is one player that is still a demon in 2009, he has probably played more good games than bad games and he hasn't played 50 games yet. I still think he'll be a very good player i'm not ready to get rid of him because he had a form slump late in the year. I know earlier this year he was a favourite amongst the Melbourne heirachy and I hope they haven't given up on him like many others have.

[Weedster 174]

Can the Dee's deal with the Tiger's to gain their Pick 8?

Craig Cameron has mentioned they wont rule out trading for an over 25 player(s). As our ex-recruiting guy he nows our list and could be looking at our Demon's he recruited over the year's.

Any thoughts on a trade to get their Pick 8?

My thought - Bate and Green for Pick 8?

You must be joking..our best CHF prospect AND our most likely B&F winner for a draft pick ??? GET REAL

[jacey 333]

I hope Bate is one player that is still a demon in 2009, he has probably played more good games than bad games and he hasn't played 50 games yet. I still think he'll be a very good player i'm not ready to get rid of him because he had a form slump late in the year. I know earlier this year he was a favourite amongst the Melbourne heirachy and I hope they haven't given up on him like many others have.

Totally agreed. Had a late start, Was solid to good in the middle but did trail off. Sore hand or not, he's gotta work thru that.

I think he'll be a goodie.