Well i dont know about many but i am facing the fact that its going to be a long year indeed and we are rebuilding and developing young players, so i dont mind us losing games for us to get a good draft pick (fingers crossed perrsonally for Naita) but this mondays Queen of Birthday game is like a final on itself usually for me and i love watching and cheering every minute of the game...i have a sense of pride for this game.

What is everyones thoughts for their ins and outs?

I think we should bring in a lot of guys to make their debut, lets just see what happens to them on the bigstage in a big crowd, that includes Maric and if Grimes is right bring Grimes up.

Now robbo will be put on the long term injury list wont he?

Valenti would be the obvious choice to be elevated for good? but due to the fact our forward line is just simply pathetic, lets take a risk....bring on the Zomertron?

Trent Zomer? At least he will be a target to kick too!!!

John Meesen? Lets see what he can do?

We might as well !!?

Zomer hasn't even played a senior game for Sandringham.

so?? lol i know it sounds unconventional but really what do we have to lose and our forward line is in trouble!! other than newton who else can we bring up from sandy to be a target up forward?

so?? lol i know it sounds unconventional but really what do we have to lose and our forward line is in trouble!! other than newton who else can we bring up from sandy to be a target up forward?

I want to see Grimes play this year too but at the moment he cannot by definition be match fit.

And Mousey...Whispering Jack is a guru.

He is Master Po...we are mere Grasshoppers.

Brock (nose) and Robbo (Achilles) will be out due to injury, and Bate's a possible omission as well with his hand.

Rivers and Carroll are available for this week, i don't know about Whelan but if he's available surely he'd be straight back in. Valenti and Holland were unlucky to be dropped last wee, and Bails did flag a possible return for Newton. Can someone tell me what the severity with Davey's injury, i'd love him to be back but only if he's fully fit.

My Ins:

Valenti, Holland, Rivers, Maric, (Newton, if Bate injured)

Outs:

Brock, Robbo, Frawley, Buckley, (Bate, if injured)

Davey stated he's a 80-90% chance to play QB, so assume he's in.

Holland in to play forward (and possibly cover Rocca if Warnock struggles)

Garland on Medhurst

Rivers in to cover Cloke

Bell out

Whelan in to play on Davis

Davey back in

Bartram and Buckley back to Sandy

OUT: Robbo, Bartram, Bell, Buckley

IN: Rivers, Holland, Davey, Whelan

Valenti in if McLean doesn't get up, Newton for Bate.

I'd like to see...

In: Davey, C Johnson, Martin, Morton, Newton, Rivers, Valenti

Out: Robertson (inj), Bartram, Bell, Bruce, Dunn, White, Yze

but it won't happen!

In:

Rivers (best 22),

Newton or Holland

CJ (sandy form has warranted it),

Davey (best 22),

Morton (already best 22)

Out: Bell, Dunn, Robbo (inj), Yze, Frawley.

Other changes should happen but no way will 5 get dropped.

I'd like to see...

In: Davey, C Johnson, Martin, Morton, Newton, Rivers, Valenti

Out: Robertson (inj), Bartram, Bell, Bruce, Dunn, White, Yze

but it won't happen!

putting Martin in is just irrational thinking

putting Martin in is just irrational thinking

Why?

In: Rivers, Davey, Morton

Out: Bartram, Frawley, Bell

Maybe dutchy will get a run if fit...

Robbo out

Holland/Newton in

Bartram/Bell out

Valenti in

Rivers in

Frawley out

Davey in

Yze out

gees i hope Brock can play this week, and Davey. Otherwise we will lose by 200 points

Its frightening that none of our experienced players are performing and we are now missing Neitz, Robertson and still possibly Whelan ( I have given up prediciting his return).

That was without doubt our worst game of this year. St. Kilda are crap too. There were countless times when St. Kilda performed a CMB (Classic Melbourne Botch). You tag Gram and he won't get a kick and Ball, Dal Santo, Hayes and Riewoldt are the only blokes that keep their heads above water.

gees i hope Brock can play this week, and Davey. Otherwise we will lose by 200 points

I hope so too, but The Age had him listed as 1 week out. I would love Davey back as well, he has become the spark of the Dees again, he and Aussie work really well off each other.

Brock (nose) ... will be out due to injury

!

Then he can go down as the first player in history to miss a game with a broken nose.

Brock wouldn't miss QB because of a broken nose. He'll play.

God I hope Davey plays.

Maybe Meesen to the forward line? He can move (apparently), maybe he can mark and/or kick too.

I'd like to see...

In: Davey, C Johnson, Martin, Morton, Newton, Rivers, Valenti

Out: Robertson (inj), Bartram, Bell, Bruce, Dunn, White, Yze

but it won't happen!

I'd like to see that sort of thing as well... we have to look towards the future. We are at the half-way mark of the season, and there are some decisions that will have to be made at the seasons end in regard to who to keep, and who goes. Bring C. Johnson in for the last 12-games to see if he is up to it. How can you evaluate a blokes ability at AFL level, when he is sitting in the stands each week?

Also bring the likes of Meesen, Martin, Newton, Valenti and Maric in... these are the future and we have to get them in eventually, what better way to do it than in front of 60,000-70,000 for the Queens Birthday??? If we lose by 100-points with a young side, then so be it. What have you lost other than some percentage and 4-points??? The kids will be better for the experience with some league football under their belt's... but it frustrates me when we go for the older names like Holland, White, Yze, etc. and still lose by 60+ points.

Nothing against any of those older blokes, they have been incredible servants for our club... but we have to look at the premiership clock, and I think that by the time we reach "premiership o'clock", the older blokes I have mentioned will be watching on well into retirement.

Outs:

Robbo - very sad

Bell - not showing enough

Yze - enough said

Dunn - Doesn't cut it

Ins:

Davey - if fit, if not Maric

Rivers - badly missed

Morton - better off for the rest, will relish a game at the G with 50,000

Holland - Can do the job on Rocca whilst Rivers sweeps or provide a foward target for small forwards

B: WHELAN, WARNOCK, GARLAND

HB: C.JOHNSON, RIVERS, WHEATLEY

C: DAVEY, MCLEAN, BRUCE

HF: BATE, MILLER, GREEN

F: YZE, HOLLAND, WONAEAMIRRI

FOLL: JAMAR, JONES, MCDONALD

IC: MORTON, VALENTI, SYLVIA, WHITE

EMERG: BUCKLEY, P.JOHNSON, MOLONEY

Miller, Sylvia and Bruce are all on their last chance. They can blame their poor performances on their young list all they like but it's their leadership group that is too blame they have been disgraceful all year.

IN: WHELAN, C.JOHNSON, RIVERS, DAVEY, HOLLAND, JAMAR, MORTON, VALENTI

OUT: ROBERTSON, BUCKLEY, P.JOHNSON, MOLONEY, BARTRAM, BELL, FRAWLEY, DUNN

In -

Rivers

Morton

Maric

Davey

Valenti

Holland

Out -

Bruce

Robbo (inj)

Bell

Miller

Bartram

Wheatley

B - Garland Warnock Frawley

HB - Morton Rivers Buckley

C - Davey Jones Green

HF - Bate Holland Wonemarri

F - Maric Sylvia Yze

R - P.Johnson McLean Moloney

I/C - White McDonald Valenti Dunn

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Then he can go down as the first player in history to miss a game with a broken nose.

give him a face mask ala the NBA players, he'll suit up or his dad will belt him on the nose again

I have just read a poster saying that there will be 8 changes!

People this amount of changes will not be made. It will be four, maybe five maximum.

B - Garland Warnock Frawley

HB - Morton Rivers Buckley

C - Davey Jones Green

HF - Bate Holland Wonemarri

F - Maric Sylvia Yze

R - P.Johnson McLean Moloney

I/C - White McDonald Valenti Dunn

We must be playing tunnel ball - new game plan.

Isn't Maric playing school footy?

My Team

Bell Warnock Garland

Green Rivers Frawley

Davey Mclean Morton

Bruce Miller Bate

Aussie Holland Sylvia

White McDonald Jones

PJ Valenti Buckley Yze

In Rivers Davey Holland Valenti

Out Moloney Bartram Robbo Dunn

Isn't Maric playing school footy?

My Team

Bell Warnock Garland

Green Rivers Frawley

Davey Mclean Morton

Bruce Miller Bate

Aussie Holland Sylvia

White McDonald Jones

PJ Valenti Buckley Yze

In Rivers Davey Holland Valenti

Out Moloney Bartram Robbo Dunn

As much as I'm keen to see Bell come back to last years form and play some good footy...I'd suggest we plump for Matty Whelan this time