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Exactly, Or was he encouraged to go in way off a very modest offer which reflected his true worth. Between Sylvia and Davey going I'm guessing that would free up close to 900k. That money can now be used to persuade a mid to join us. Wonder if that crossed Roo's mind.

Your right , who's going to teach the kids to give up when it all becomes too hard . Nasher touched on it before , as a group build your own success. Roo's will get us heading in the right direction by installing discipline, accountability and a never say die attitude into the playing group. Moving to Freo doesn't guarantee him success .

Between Davey and Sylvia we should have close to a mil freed up.

Out of Col's 157 games how many did in put in for 100% of the game, how many games did he say to his teammates this is not good enough we can do better? Our young mids can look to Jones for leadership. You could replace Col's 157 games of experience with someone who has played 50 for the cats, hawks or swans.

Sylvia is a massive talent but to date his career has been a massive disappointment. Moving to Freo won't fix everything, to play Ross Lyon's game plan you have to be switched on 100% of the time not just make the occasional cameo that were used to from Col. I said in an earlier post Chapman for 2 years would be more beneficial for our club than Col for 2. Will be interesting to see how he goes.

big bodied player who has refused to string consecutive worthy performances together throughout his career. Coaches aren't to blame, Viney proved that. Obviously offered a contract reflecting his true worth. I can't wait till he kicks 3 goals against weaker opposition and has 25 touches and people get on here and cry about another player mistreated. Col is a freeloader and as someone has already mentioned he has been part of the problem. Col, sodd off I won't miss you.

I can only hope the club has smartened up and he was only offered what reflects his output. As we know clubs must offer more in order to get players to shift clubs. I don't see this as a loss for us if we use the money and lure a quality mid.

Our club would benefit more over the next two seasons with Chapman than Sylvia. Kinda of says a lot doesn't it.

Crouch would be nice. Haven't the two clubs already had this discussion?

The unreliable AFL trade rumours has Col in WA meeting unnamed club officials.

The unreliable AFL trade rumours has Col in WA meeting unnamed club officials.

I wouldn't have called him a full time sniper but the injury he sustained that ended his career was caused by running towards a loose ball on the wing, looking up and seeing an opponent coming at him, then over running the ball to attack the man. This was later confirmed by Grant Thomas on radio, Hamill had told Thomas he regretted his decision.

And while I'm going think back to 2004, Jonathan Brown rushed into an all-in at 3/4 time grabbed someone in a headlock from behind then flung them to the ground and landed on top of them. This incident could have turned out worse than it did. Brown was charged with rough play but got off because play had technically stopped. That sort of crap is for courts off law not independent sporting tribunals. Then a few years later Barry Hall strikes Matt Maguire off the ball and also got off under dubious circumstances.

Kidding, dreaming, thinking out loud. Not sure who did it but I thought I read the AFL commission was presented with reasons why we shouldn't receive a priority pick. Then they should also be presented with a case against Sydney. As supporters of the game we can cop the Suns and Giants getting allowances in its many forms but timeframes must apply. Two flags in recent years to the Swans says it all.

- yes it's good to see GWS get beaten but who is their next target?- scary thing is Hawks have 1.1mil spare in their cap - as previously stated hopefully this forces out some of their mids - clubs won't die, Geelongs module has still been the most successful of recent times

Removing Sydney's salary cap concessions would have to be done over 2-3 years, it can't be done feasibly in one season. The AFL needs to act.

How are we getting pick 6 back?

You make some good points, regardless of front loaded/back loaded contracts some of their mids must be asking where their share is. Have we offered pick for a Kieren Jack?

Nicely put mate.

Hamill ended his career by attacking the man and not the ball. He was made to understand about karma.

On the flipside this should p##s off some of their players and hopefully force out some quality young mids. The extra salary cap has to go.

In an ideal world yes, but we're not in that position yet and don't have that kind of pull yet. We can't keep throwing cash at everyone ala our two key forwards who are always injured. Chappy for two year, even at 15 games a year would offer more than some players who have clogged this list as if it's their right. I could mention some names but we all know who they are.

Kosi wasn't a big loss.

Nick Riewoldt is on the table . AFL trade rumours on fire again.

I wasn't aware, cheers. I work away a lot so I'm often catching games on fox in country pubs. Next season I will send you a PM so we can organise something, cheers.