Gippsland Dee

Yeah he gave formula 3000 a go in '97 and was team-mate to juan pablo montoya, unfortunately he didn't have the success montoya did in his 1 season as he retired in the majority of races and was unable to find the budget to compete another season so came back to V8's and won his first year back!

I don't mind pick 13 for dawes. I think he can return to his form of a couple of seasons ago, but i do think our time would be better spent getting pedersen. Could we potentially get both??? that would really set up our fwd line

if they're going to do anything they should re-vert back to the 4 bench system! that was far better than the current system imo and if they were to make it a 2-2 bench it would absolutely take the game backwards!

Craig lowndes has got to be one of the greatest ever racers to be in the V8 Supercars! He has been one of the most consistent racers in the V8 in the last 20 odd years and is currently 38 years old and doesn't seem to be slowing at all. He has all of the prestigeous prizes in v8 and are as follows: . 3 time v8 supercars champion (1996, 1998-99), 3 time runner-up (2005-06, 2011), 2 time 3rd (2000, 2007), currently 2nd in this years championship. . won 1996 championship in his rookie year, youngest ever driver to do so at 22! . 5 time bathurst 1000 winner (1996, 2006-08, 2010), 5 times runner-up (1994, 1999, 2003-04, 2011), 1 time 3rd place (2012). . 87 race wins from 204 starts. . 101 podium finishes. . 40 round wins. . 31 pole positions. He always has a smile on his face whenever you see him in the field and always seems to be having a ball while still taking it seriously. one of the best people in the v8's IMO!

i really rate him as a player. He has a fair bit of improvement in him that is needed but you can see the desire is there is he should definitely be capable of it. A must keep. By the way, what happened with him this year? was he injured?

had a massive 1st half of the year before injury, worth every penny we spent on him!

I think his time would be better spent in the role he played in his first few games when he was getting 30+ possesions, who cares if a few of those are a bit wayward? yes he is a decent tagger but he is a better ball getter!

If viney goes to our 2nd rnd pick we could probably afford to go for a tall (grundy) with our 3rd or 4th pick. If we have to use him early we would surely use the other top 5 pick on another mid. My preference is: pick 3: toumpas pick 4: O'rourke/Grundy pick 13: kennedy pick 26: Viney

Heres a list of all the hits in drafting (2000-11) that we have had and all the flops and ones that are yet to prove themselves: hits 2000 Scott thompson (adelaide), national pick 16 Darren Jolly (collingwood), rookie pick 31 2001 Brad miller (retired), national pick 55 Mark Jamar, rookie pick 6 2002 Daniel Bell, national pick 14 Jared Rivers, national pick 26 Nathan carroll, rookie pick 56 2003 Colin sylvia, national pick 3 Brock McLean national pick 5 Aaron Davey rookie pick 3 2004 Lyden dunn, national pick 15 (as a player yes, pick no) Matthew warnock (GCS), rookie pick 26 2005 Nathan Jones, national pick 12 Clint bartram, national pick 60 2006 James frawley, national pick 12 Colin Garland, national pick 46 2007 Jack Grimes, national pick 14 Stefan martin, pre-season pick 3 Austin Wonaeamirri, rookie pick 19 2008 Jack watts, national pick 1 Sam Blease, national pick 17 Liam Jurrah, pre-season pick 1 Jordie Mckenzie, rookie pick 1 2009 Jack trengove, national pick 2 Luke tapscott, national pick 18 Joel MacDonald, pre-season pick 1 2010 Jeremy howe, national pick 33 Tom McDonald, national pick 53 Dan nicholson, rookie pick 14 Michael evans, rookie pick 31 2011 James sellar, national pick 54 Thomas couch, rookie pick 24 James magner, rookie pick 42 Flops 2000 Daniel Breese national pick 62 Ross funcke, national pick 73 mitchell Craig, national pick 80 Nick Gill, preseason pick 10 Kevin Devine, rookie pick 15 Mark berts, rookie pick 46 Benjamin Doherty, rookie pick 58 Thomas marshall, rookie pick 64 2001 Luke Molan, national pick 9 Steven armstrong, national pick 25 Aaron rogers,national pick 26 David robbins, rookie pick 22 Ryan ayres, rookie pick 37 Nicholas walsh, rookie pick 49 2002 nick smith, national pick 15 gary moorcroft, national pick 39 Cameron hunter, national pick 54 Ryan ferguson, nationalpick66 Guy Rigoni, pre-season pick 5 Adam fisher, rookie pick 11 Dale carson, rookie pick 27 Ezra poyas, rookie pick 43 Michael clark, rookie pick 65 2003 Chris Johnson, national pick 36 Phil read, preseason pick 3 Paul newman, rookie pick 19 Joel campbell, rookie pick 50 2004 Matthew bate, national pick 13 Michael newwton, national pick 43 Brendan van schaik, rookie pick 10 2005 simon buckley, national pick 53 heath neville, national pick 68 Jace bode, rookie pick 9 dan hughes, rookie pick 25 shane neaves, rookie pick 39 Andre gianfagna, rookie pick 51 2006 Ricky petterd, national pick 30 Isaac weetra, national pick 62 Daneil hayes, rookie pick 12 2007 cale morton, national pick 4 addam maric, national pick 21 kyle cheney, national pick 53 Tom McNamara, national pick 66 Trent zomer, rookie pick 3 Shane valenti, rookie pick 49 2008 rhys healey, rookie pick 17 Daniel hughes, rookie pick 33 2009 Tom scully, natioanl pick 1 michael newton, rookie pick 6 John meesen, rookie pick 22 2010 lucas cook, national pick 12 kelvin lawrence, rookie pick 48 Cameron johnston, rookie pick 63 Robert campbell, rookie pick 75 Tom mcnamara, rookie pick 83 2011 - Unproven 2007 jake spencer, rookie pick 35 (senior list now) 2008 James strauss, national pick 19 Jamie bennell, national pick 35 Neville jetta, national pick 51 Rohan bail, national pick 64 2009 Jordan gysberts, national pick 11 Max gawn, national pick 34 Jack fitzpatrick, national pick 50 2010 Troy davis, national pick 50 2011 Rory taggert, national pick 36 Josh tynan, national pick 52 jai sheahan, rookie pick 6 Leigh williams, rookie pick 59 There we go! not a very pretty sight that, although there are some gems in there amoung the rubble

yeah i know i'm hoping i don't have to!

I'd say that the chances of stef being traded to the pies is more unlikely now as the have lynch who can be a pinch hitting ruck/fwd to take some of the pressure of Jolly.

and theres hit an all time low when they lost to GWS! at least we haven't had this happen with either of the new franchises

we didn't lose anything, unrestricted free agent

he will be an ideal pick up for us as we don't have any small, fast, crubing forwards and he ticks everyone of those boxes he brings a large amount of experience (dual preiership player) and he is also coming from a winning culture which is an invaluable trait and he can hopefully give our young players an idea of what they have to put in to make it at this level!

i don't think it would be instead of brynes, i think it would be aswell as...

wouldn't hurt, we do need small crumbing forwards and he has been reasonably successful at the lions. Nice pick up if it was to happen

Gumby, when he has been fit he has proven he can well and truely play, he would be a great pick-up tp go along side clark! whengumby has been on the field he has made everyone else look like grasshoppers!!! he's HUGE As others have said though we do have sellar, and towards the end of the season he seemed to be getting more confident in his body and was really starting to perform

after cameron pulled out of the coaching job they're down to about their 6th, 7th or even 8th choice of coach! Yes but who lost to gws AND gc in their first seasons??? says it all really

That really doesn't sound good

Well i really can't see the deal happening if we don't offer a pick around that mark. Wellingham would be worth getting as he would add a bit of class, and dawes on his day is still a good marking forward who is accurate infront of goals. I really think it would be worthwhile us going for them, but if it does fall through we are placed really well to make a killing in this years draft

Well what about pick 13 for dawes and wellingham? we should offer no less then a 1st rnd pick for them both, possibly a player with it?

This should change given that we have had a clean out with staffing this season

yes it is but provided we don't have to use pick 3 on viney we will still have 3, 13, 22, viney(26), wellingham, dawes and anyone else we pick up. sounds pretty good to me if this happens

i'm liking the sound of melbourne getting both wellingham and Dawes in a package deal! just on trade radio, wellingham dawes and pies 1st rnd pick (22 or whatever it is) for pick 4!

Players can hit each other right on the chest when they're kicking to teamates so why not goals? all they should do when kicking for goal is pick out a spectator or group of spectors behind the goals and kick it to them as if they were kicking to a teamate! this should drastically increase player accuracy