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Perfect pick up for Port...

Good luck trying to get a fair deal from the clown Josh...

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned Ryan O'Keefe. Wanted to leave Sydney, was out the door but they couldn't agree on a trade, ended up staying and went on to win the Norm & a Premiership. Not everything is black & white...but we do hold the cards.

As Roos said a few weeks back the media and football industry in general can be like sheep...the whole thing gains momentum and they just tag on and then we get this almost hysteria about it (whatever the issue is)... Think the Carlton priority pick scenario as a recent example. The media built it up from maybe to a roar that they must apply and would be certain to bet a priority pick they would be mad not to apply. The AFL commission knocked it down...for good reason. ...and it all died down.

We could still get a reasonable pick. St Kilda have players on the move so their picks will change, it's not static. We could also have access to future picks or Kent's move could be linked in to our KK deal...

They will have the Gaff money...so I would expect salary cap may not be an issue.

I think he has the upside of someone like Yeo... A pretty convincing reason to buy.

Yep, I think we're on the same track. I just wouldn't put him with the others on the list. I think he has some good exposed form, the others really didn't. They were more spec picks... The spec here is whether he can get over the previous injuries. I'm excited about him as a prospect, I was trying to think who we could bring in without going down the big fish path. There had to be someone out there that would be a perfect fit for us and I think the FD uncovered him.

I wouldn't put KK in either of these categories. He's a much better player than all listed. He has played quality footy but injury has been an issue, in the first list none of those had proven form apart from the odd game for a couple of them. He's certainly nothing like Watts and that acquisition. Jack got nowhere near top 2 in our b&f good or bad years. The bet with KK is nothing to do with form and more to do with getting him injury free and confident in his body.

I don't rate Shiel as highly as others and definitely don't at the money he's asking... Way overs.

I don't think he fits our needs 'Mad'. He doesn't have one thing that really stands out about him and we have some like JKH & Billy for example on the list already. Looked good during the year but seemed to fall off in the finals which is not a good advertisement.

I don't know that many are writing Hunt off but he is an entirely different player to Gaff. Apart from his at times haphazard ball use Hunt doesn't get a lot of it, he doesn't naturally find the ball and that's probably Gaff's biggest asset (along with the tank to get the job done). Hunt can be a line breaker and at his best also uses his pace to put a lot of pressure on the opposition. He had a manic attack that was missing this year. Get that back & he's on his way.

The bidding will go a lot higher on Shiel... ...by the time this trade period is up he will be up around the $1mill which is way overs for his output.

If we were looking to go down that path I think we would have kept Bernie on the list 'Lord'... Our list will have a different look at the end of this trade period and at present I don't see a role for Barlow with us. You would have thought GCS the ideal club for him.

Hogan is gone. Seems it was going to happen at some stage. As for the what our priorities are, KD is one. Frost is not the long term answer and Oscar is limited. Looking to fix this weakness doesn't mean we aren't looking to fix others. ...and May might not even want to come to us or GC might want too much. We might have other irons in the fire that no one knows about yet. Some results papered over our weak defence, others showed it up. It is a real problem area and most of our fans are on the edge of their seats when the ball goes into to our defensive 50...

Big thanks to the Demonland crew. The platform you put up for us is invaluable. Some really good solid info & opinions, some not so good and still plenty of room for a good old argument. It's been a great season so lets all look forward to even better ahead.

Go back and have a look at the WC prelim and you might work it out...

Sorry 'A F', not with you on this one. It was a typical Carlton thing to do, looking for the next messiah (one we used to fall for). Carlton patched up some holes, WC go on to win a flag. I know which shoes I'd rather be in. All spoils go to the victor...where are Carlton now?

You would be one of very few 'deanox'. To me it's a huge problem, if we can get it sorted and add a bit of silk we are set.

...and just maybe after yesterday winning a premiership takes a precedent over money or the desire to be an inside mid.

Liam Ryan on multiple occasions...

Haven't seen him play a minute but if he is more outside in junior footy then I wouldn't touch him. The draft is littered with great junior outside mids who don't make it in the big time. We know better that most...Morton, Toumpas to name a couple that come to mind.

I know it won't be a popular call but I would prefer Cerra. Huge upside, complete package. Won't cost as much at the moment and could form part of the Hogan trade. Love his overhead marking which makes him more dangerous in my humble opinion. Get in his ear and convince Freo that he wants back home after his next contract.

Yep, called that one a bit early 'Jibroni'... Thank goodness they turned it around. Great effort by WC and a great coaching display by Simpson. His match ups were spot on as they were last week against us...

He's a class act 'chook'...pity he has to coach Coliingwood. Taking the time to console the cheer squad members before the game is the measure of the man.