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That's rubbish 'Graeme'... Everyone was calling for him to kick more last year. I've seen Clayton hit some great passes to moving forwards. I'm not seeing forwards moving to the right spots at the moment and we seem to have a game plan to bang the ball in. It's obviously not a great game plan.

It's a bit of a nonsense stat... Unfortunately our forwards move like statues and lets face it on form our forward line is the worst in the comp so it's no wonder the ball isn't retained. We have next to no forward half pressure, Tommy Mc can't catch a cold and we don't have anyone better but let's blame the kicker. I've seen Clayton spot up and hit targets when they move to the right spots, our forwards rarely go there. Game plan? Forwards not up to the level?

Hard to tell form watching some video last night but to me he looks more a Sam Lloyd type forward than a quick small forward with tricks... Not that fussed by the highlights but he looks a neat footballer, not sure it's what we want or need.

Even last year those players you mention were only getting numbers in the 20's on a good day... Stretch this year for example, even ANB although apparently he had been told to focus on tackles. When Spargo plays he only gets low numbers, they should be racking up possessions or goals to get a promotion.

Has the style of VFL footy changed in the last 2 years? ...or is it just us? Grimes and Trengove would consistently rack up 30+ possessions every week at Casey. ANB racked up big numbers before he made the leap up. Last year the numbers dropped back a little with Tyson and Bugg usually around the mid 20's when they played there, maybe an occasional 30. ..but now we struggle to find anyone getting 20. Surely if you can't pick up 30+ possessions at VFL level in the midfield then you're going to really struggle at AFL level.

Have floated the idea of playing Smith back... Let's see if the FD have some imagination.

I get that, but my point is inside 50's are set up from the back half coming through the midfield. If he's forward of centre then he becomes more of a target or defensive forward. It's hard to improve delivery inside 50 if you're already inside 50... That's why I don't think King's point stands up.

Makes no sense...you generally set up your forward targets from half back to the centre. That's where Salem is. We don't need Salem to be a target, we need him to keep hitting them up.

Can Bull go back to take a role? Similar size too Darling. He has done some midfield time at Casey, so should have the tank to run with him. Be better to have trialed it at Casey but we don't have many options. Just a thought...

Salem is the bright spot in a pretty average season to date...

Had a great nights sleep thanks.... Can't see where I've been whingeing at all, just looking at where we sit this year with an objective viewpoint not red & blue fans eyes. I guess one mans trash is another mans treasure. Tom is really struggling at the moment, his form line is reminiscent of a few years back when he went from one of the most promising defenders in the game to nearly losing his place in the team before his renaissance as a forward. He looked to be the answer as a key forward, his strength being his marking and accurate kicking both of which seem to have deserted him. I hope the winning point might turn his confidence and form around...

Trouble is they were top line premiership/contender teams. At the moment we're nowhere near that & we're not doing what they were. We're scrapping out wins against other average/bottom rung teams. ...but it beats losing.

Not with that dropped mark he's not, it was an absolute soda. Harmes put it right down his throat, no defender on him & Tommy dropped it like a hot spud. Lucky he got a boot to it. When/if Tommy starts holding his grabs he will start to show some form.

Been calling for this one for a few weeks but time to try Sparrow back... Doesn't get enough ball for a mid but has attributes that might be better suited back. With Jetta, Lewis & Hibberd out nows the time to try it.

Did anyone hear Rampe's call when caught holding the ball. The ump reckons he called play on 3 times, Rampe said he couldn't here his little girls voice...

I don't see it as our only problem but it is a problem none the less. Would rather put development time into Sparrow now as he could be the longer term replacement for Jetta. Just don't see the point in Lewis any more...

I would keep the current lineup but with Sparrow in for Lewis... As for Frost, well....he's been ok and his pace can be an asset. Keep the game simple for him but as soon as he goes away from simple we are in a world of trouble. Who knows, maybe he can become a footballer. Stanley seems to have done it at Geelong and that's something I can say I never saw coming. ...but for now if it was a toss up between him and Oscar then it's Frost.

I think the poster meant the rail yards between the 'G' and the tennis centre. I don't think Andrews has an opinion on this let alone being against it...

Runner up last year in their B&F... Came to Hawthorn as a small forward. Sometimes you need to look at what the player brings. I think if Sparrow is going to make it, it will be as a defender...

One more than Viney...

I would replace him with Sparrow. I think he is more suited as a small/medium defender than midfielder. He doesn't find the ball enough as a mid but has a lot of good attributes we need in defence. I see him being similar to Hardwick at the Hawks. The sooner we get game time into him the better.

If Viney is replacing ANB I hope it's as a pressure forward. He's been a liability as a midfielder this season...

No, but it should mean that he hasn't earned the right to make the call.

Good luck getting to Casey in half an hour mid week...

Think Seaford and you will know that Casey would be a retrograde step... You could kiss goodby any thoughts of being a destination club.