Pennant St Dee

I was at the East Freo vs East Perth game the other day Robbie & he was terrible, turned the ball over a lot, failed to go hard at contests and yes will be lucky not to be in the two's very soon. The East Perth fans are not happy with him he is there whipping boy!

Frawley for mine, he has earned it over the years and I hope he will approve his loyalty soon enough!

What about Doggies this year being allowed to have all red as an alernate clash so effectively they have Blue as primary and Red as alternative Tigers - what is there second option, still black with a bigger sash and yellow trim down the side Small issue yes but common sense must prevail, there is no side if we wore Royal blue against where it would be an issue, it's not close to Meth Coast and if they want us to change against Carlton because both jumpers are predominatley blue then Red as an alternative, same for the Doggies if they have an issue with our navy blue against their royal blue.

Will Minson & Todd Goldstein are Free Agents at the end of 2014, may need to put some attention towards them next year!

6.Garland - My pick for Bluey his year at this stage 5.McDonald - I like this kid been underdone for most of the year but think he'll be good for us for many years 4.Nate Jones - Warrior nothing more to say really 3.Sylvia - decent 4 quarter game from Col, but any chance he can string 10 games together without injury or suspension, We need you to sign and play a full season over the next 2 years as we look to move forward. 2.Toumpas - The kid shows a lot and was good in the 2nd half 1.Watts - decent effort today, will really standout with a fit Dawes and Clark beside him

I don't know enough about the facts you talk of Redleg re the proxy vote, but IMO I think you should call into SEN when Dermie is on and put him on the spot re this issue, he would if the shoe were on the other foot

Really, try googling Luke Shuey

Lot of interest in the game for us, down a fair few players and certainly missing a large chunk of our best 22. Will be keen to see the effort the boys bring for four quarters, whether they play with more freedom and take the game on a bit more. Good luck to Clisby in his debut and lets see some fire in the belly Dees!

Good point, most of us know the history and probably time to write some new chapters. Cheers for your efforts

I'll raise you a Zac Dawson, there is a reason he punches everything

Re Woosha looking gaunt I have seen him out and about a lot and he is lean all over. He got serious into Marathon/long distance running in the last 12 months and is pounding a fair few miles and spending a lot less time in the gym. Hence the much leaner look. The personal issues with the marriage is what has his mind elsewhere ATM

And Ross if your referring to Lyon is not a Premiership Coach

A lot of selective memory by many on this site, Garry Lyon was a champion on the field don't let the decisions with the coaching choice sway your views on that. For me Demonland banner should consist of Checker Hughes - Created the Demons Legend Norm Smith - Greatest Coach the game has seen Ron Barassi - Legend of the club and the game Rob Flower - another club legend in barren time for the club Jim Stynes - a legend, a great man and a true demon These 5 should always remain on the banner and IMO the other spots can change with current coach, current captain/s & the Bluey winner from the previous season

No that was Worsfold who took them to their first and only spoon in 2010

Don't see anything wrong with our current emblem and think we have far bigger issues at the club to worry about!

Why oh why Dlanders do you continue to respond to this guy^^^

Are you serious started coaching in early 20's after serious knee injury ended his career, won a Sandover at 18 in his first full season. Took East Fremantle to Premiership in 1974 before moving on to Swan Districts in the late 70's who were the basketcase of the WAFL at the time, after a tough time took them to consecutive finals appearances from 80-85 including runners up in 1980 & 3peat Premiers in 82/83 & 84. Some may say this is only WAFL but at this time the WAFL went through a golden era with players such as Maurice Rioli, Stephen Michael (best player never to play VFL/AFL), Graham Moss, Steve Malaxos, Simon Beesley, Phil/Jim Krakouer, Brad Hardie, Brian Peake, Kevin Mitchell, Gary Sidebottom, Phil Narkle, Allen Daniels, Tony Buhagier, Graham Melrose,Nicky Winmar among others. Took Meth Coast to their first finals appearance in 1988 and after went back to Swans in 1990 to coach them to a Flag. Returned to his original club South Fremantle and coached them to a flag in 1997 before heading into retirement. Sorry Jazza way off the mark with John Todd in this category, a true great of the game in WA and from teh old school hymn book of coaches. Damien Drum should be on your list

The only one I can think of off the top of my head who played in both Grand Finals is Michael O'Loughlin

Was right hand man to Cahill during 1997 & 98 took over the following year and from memory took them to finals in his first year where they lost to North. There original draft concessions were not great (nothing like GWS & Suns) they traded there first pick in 1996 draft which Meth Coast used for Gardiner. From 1999 to 2004 he had Port as a formidable side who finished minor Premiers 2 or 3 times. He then rebuilt the list from 04-07 and got them to the GF again in 07 where they lost to the powerful Geelong side. I think he had run his race with Port by the end of 08 and it was time for him to move on then but he basically built two very good sides at Port!

I don't think we'll get a PP but if we do I think it will be at the middle to end of the first round, I don't really care about time we stopped worrying about picks to get us out of our problems

I don't think it matters if flash is around or not, if Garlett continues on his current improvement since last season it is because not getting drafted last season has embarrassed him and made him realise this is his shot! Tom Roach, Shaun Hilderbrandt, Tallan Ames are the on field leaders at Swan Districts and I have watched them this year encourage Dayle throughout his games. Specifically it has sunk in with Garlett so far and he just needs to continue on his current path, the danger time for him is if Swans don't make finals and he has downtime between the end f season and the draft. Hopefully his employment in the fitness industry makes this a non issue and he turns up lean and hungry. It's up to him!

Pretty much it in a nutshell, this is the main source of our current predicament!

Would mean a lot more if Mitchell, Sewell, Hodge, Rioli and Guerra were in our side, what a difference 5 players would make. Two clearance kings, probably the best crumbing forward going around, tough hard nosed defender who would provide safe options out of defence and a true leader who is one of the smartest players going around. Those 5 is where the difference lies not in our forward half (barring Cyril)

Look honestly without sounding horrible, I don't buy this indigenous leader stuff. If your a leader your a leader, the indigenous leader side of things didn't help with Wonna or Liam. By all means allow flash to have some input but Garlett needs greater influences in workrate. My understanding is he has picked up work within the fitness area and is currently in a relationship which bodes well for him off the field. Lewis Jetta improved at Sydney because he was made train and run with Keiran Jack during the off season, If and for me still a big if to draft Garlett he would be getting taken under the wing of Todd Viney and given mentors like Nathan Jones in how to work hard. On seeing him so far this year I would take him somewhere in the 2nd round but long way to go in the year when he could move up, stay the same or move down the pecking order One thing I forgot to put in the post number 49 for Swans did a lot of nothing with a few disposals and failed on a few occasions to put his body on the line. For you Old Dee 49 was Jamie Bennell

Well due to other commitments I was disappointed I couldn't make WA vs Vic Metro in the u/18's this morning, but this afternoon I headed to Leederville Oval to see Subiaco vs Swan Districts with both coming off the bye and wins against top 4 sides in their previous outings. The game was a tough call for local tipsters who expected a contest but let me say I headed there expecting to see a close contest but it was anything but that. Worst most listless game of football I have seen this season. Sheed was playing in the u/18 championships so didn't get a look at him. Michael Wood and Dayle Garlett were the two youngsters in the game whom scouts would have been watching. On Dayle 1st Qrt Very little of him in this quarter he was very lethargic and looked flat footed at times 10 mins: Swans attacking and honour a lead at RFP which spills over the top to sweeping defender, Garlett comes in quick with defensive effort to force defender and ball over the line and ball up. What was of note here was Garlett's awareness not to draw his opponent to the contest and leave it 1 on 1 17 mins: Swans force a turnover on their half back line and break down the left wing, Garlett strolls through the corridor when their is clear space between CHF & FF. Swans player forced to kick long with no options and at the spill of the contest Subiaco clear easily 19mins: Again Swans cause a turnover and rebound to the left of the corridor, Garlett floating between centre and CHF identifies space at FF and makes a great angled run leaving opponent trailing now unable to see Garlett and ball coming in, pass is not AFL quality and it looks like Garlett made the wrong lead but IMO AFL player would have been able to hit the ball to correct area and left Garlett to run into an open goal 21mins: Garlett makes a good lead to RFP after a few half leads to lose and gain advantage on opponent, poor disposal sees ball go over Garlett's head but does not drop far behind him, he switches off thinking ball is headed out and provides no second effort, allowing Subiaco to clear the ball easily Quarter ends with Swans holding a 2 to 3 goal lead in a very lacklustre quarter for both sides 2ndQrt 1min: Swans win first bounce out of the centre and ball is bombed long from just outside forward 50 to around 2m from goal, Garlett seeing danger follows ball but does not get caught ball watching his direct opponent losses contact and attacks contest while Garlett sits ready at top of square and picks up the spill and immediately snap goal 7mins: Swans rebound quickly from HB and Garlett collects ball between near the edge of the Square & CHF he has the option of blazing away for goal but is cool and hits a perfectly weighted pass forcing FF to lead to pocket and take an uncontested mark. FF misses for a point. excellent disposal by Garlett with a pass not unlike something you would see from Davey 9mins: Ball is cleared hurriedly from Centre square and comes to HFF where Garlett gives a contest and provides good second effort to apply a tackle to crumbing defender, unfortunately for Garlett defender ducks his head and is awarded a free kick 10mins: Swans attack again and the ball spends some time in their forward 30 where Garlett stands flat footed and provides nothing, Subiaco clear with Garlett's direct opponent providing outlet with run to HBF passes through corridor and Bristow hist up Michael Wood with a strong lead. Subiaco goal 17mins: Garlett uses pace to make a lead to LHFF and after taking mark turns immediately to hit perfectly weighted pass over floating defender and hitting leading forward in Forward pocket. Results in point but another display of the foot skills of Garlett 29 mins: Gets caught ball watching and flat footed when a ball is cleared from a contest on Centre wing to space between CHF & FF makes a late effort at a marking contest but provides no second effort and ball is cleared easily by Garlett's direct opponent Garlett showed some AFL standard disposal in this quarter and has an awareness around goal which is natural, glaring lapses at times when he does not make second efforts or provide options 3rd Qrt: 3 mins: Swans clear ball from the centre square and kick is headed towards Garlett who is caught flat footed and does not provide contest and ball is cleared easily by Subi 7mins: Makes several efforts at leading before losing opponent and leading to LHFF and quickly for 3rd time during day plays on chipping to space forcing Tony Notte to run hard and take a good leading mark, from which he goals 22mins: Shows awareness by starting a lead and balking when he realises he is drawing a bigger opponent to a marking contest doubles back before making another lead to space accepting a pass from team mate who marked at original contest, turns and pinpoints a pass between CHF & FF which is marked by Geappan who goals (game over at this stage) 23mins: Swans cause turnover after Subi win clearance and bomb long to contest, Swans head down Western wing and kick long to RHF, where several players become involved in a marking contest, ball spills towards space about 35metres from goal, Garlett uses pace to lose opponent and scoops the ball up while at top pace with defender in pursuit, turns side on and snaps a goal 26mins: Garlett provides contest at HFF, which he was never going to win but does enough to bring the ball to ground forcing a ball up Again during 3rd quarter Garlett shows his good and bad side, caught flat footed or not willing to run hard enough to get to a contest or provide option to team mate. But his skills again can not be questioned and his passing skills are first class. 4th Qrt 6 mins: Gets to a contest at CHF when a Subi defender is preparing to clear, lays a tackle against a much bigger opponent but does not have the strength to cause a spill or bring opponent to ground. Ball is cleared through a string of handpasses 7mins: Previous clearance is turned over at Swans HBF and Subi are caught on the rebound Garlett remains deep and scores from a long pass to Forward pocket, which is handballed over the top to Garlett in goal square who kicks his 3rd 8 mins: Garlett gathers ball between Centre wing and LHFF and kicks without penetration and causes a turnover The game is over as a contest and Subi start to score some goals to make the margin a bit more respectable 14mins: Michael Wood is left in a 1 on 1 contest at FF with a much larger opponent and uses his body really well to take a mark and kicks a goal 26 mins: Garlett makes tow fantastic back to back efforts to put pressure on opponents as Subi attempt to clear the ball from defence, whilst Garlett does not cause turnover his efforts see hurried kicks in the passage of play which forces ball wide and eventually OOB on Centre wing, first real time I have seen Garlett gut run and absolutely out of breath sucking in some big gulps of air Swans win by 47 points thanks to dominance of their midfield and great game from Tony Notte (Ex WCE). In summing up Garlett had little of the ball and was not as good as the last time I seen him, but that was more of a solo effort, he had greater help from team mates today and Swans were therefore less reliant on him. There is no doubting his ability or the fact he has excellent skills and physically he has applied himself better, it is very obvious by how lean he is. I think his pace has improved since last year which is allowing him to close in on opponents quicker than he did last year. Positives so far: Garlett is fitter and faster Foot skills are exquisite and he makes teammates go to the ball he knows where to hit a pass and hit a forward without giving the defender a chance Tackling has improved, he is not like young flash but can put some heat on defenders 2nd efforts while not often are appearing I have seen him twice this year and has been very disciplined no sulking when things aren't going his way which was evident last year, appears to be listening intently when coming off and speaking with coaches Negatives: Doesn't get involved enough, I hope I'm there the day he is switched on for 4 quarters Needs to get stronger to see his tackles cause turnovers at AFL level To make an impact at AFL level and not get hurt going the other way needs to improve his stamina All in all very confident so far he will get drafted, has put a lot of effort in and worth a punt so far, still not sold on him going first round but well worth early second round pick. Michael Wood - Subi were awful and he played at FF so didn't see much of him, leads continually and is never flat footed I will wait to see more of him before assessing but could be worth a rookie spot. Not a big KPT but with some more body size may be a handy 3rd tall. Without trying to show my West Perth bias I think he is behind Rodda who can also play across HB