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I don't buy that bit so much Steve I am right hand dominated but always been left footed and know plenty of others who are similar

Seriously I have ready your tripe for years but take it as gospel this is fact in this is very much a factor in this case I am struggling to comprehend you are actually an adult to come out with some of the stuff you have in this thread, if you're genetically or mentally challenged I apologise in advance, you sound like the type of insecure person who always assumes the worst oh know my partner has gone out without me they must be cheating. FFS Harden Up if he goes he goes, we will continue and be well compensated Smart clubs build around more than 1 player and if we are to win a flag it wont be solely because of Jesse Hogan, whatever hole he leaves will be filled it may take time but it will be filled

He also dropped During NAB score around the grounds this season on February 27th Port 20 odd points to Melbourne 1 point - LANGDON - well Melbourne doing their usual they are just no good Melbourne wont win 5 games this season Judd wont leave West Coast because they are one of the best at retaining players and don't lose ones they want to keep I believe David Mundy has gone because every player who puts off contract talks has moved at the end of the season Summing up my belief that if you thrown enough darts, you will hit the target at some stage. And my mail on the contract situation from a decent source the waiting till the end of the season is absolutely honest, Jesse is backing himself in to increase his net value and nobody even close friends know what the outcome will be.

Jesse grew up in Scarborough and is a Marist/Claremont zone boy, certainly wouldn't be heading into Northbridge, with a long list of friends from the Western suburbs. He still keeps in regular contact with a lot of the Claremont and Marist boys and catches up with them whilst he is back in Perth. I know a few of the lads he knocks about with and families he grew up with. In case you hadn't heard they have coffee here, Freo is well known for it. A lot of what I hear does little to concern me as to wanting to return to Perth, but until he signs there is always that doubt, there are some circumstances which concern me but whatever happens, it happens. I don't believe for 1 minute this nonsense he didn't like growing up in Perth. His family no longer lives in Perth but he spends a lot of his off season and in season his breaks back in Perth. He spends that time here, heading out with mates from his childhood. The main reason he would want to stay in melbourne is to stay with the new mates he has formed bonds with and to be part of something with them Jesse and his manager are playing this game perfectly he has 2 more years to run and barring a shocking injury his price will rise and rise. Currently you have Freo being talked about, they wont be throwing the kitchen sink money wise at Macarthy just more than GWS were offering, but don't think for one minute if there is any talk of him wishing to return that Meth Coast wont also be in the race. Josh Kennedy will be 30 next year so hardly commanding massive dollars or a long term contract. We currently have him and since Roos and co came on board we are certainly in the box seat and IMO he is ours to lose, we just need to keep this momentum going and keep heading in the right direction with this young core we have and not rest on our laurels. We will know by early 2017 what Jesse's intentions are

Yep Cats built their list on the drafts of 99 & 01 and the Hawks built there's off 01 & 04. Absolutely nail 2 or 3 drafts with 7 or 8 core players and some bookends and you set yourselves up very well

Yes Bandicoot I understand that as overall there are more teams in Victoria, but I am just making the point that some of those AFL players only have fitness over the VFL, SANFL & WAFL players. Whilst I thinks it's great Oli performed well in the VFL the biggest plus for me is the fact he has realised very early the sacrifices required to make it at the next level. Full time conditioning staff and dieticians has me looking at him with a great deal of anticipation

Looks a nice kick on what I have seen, and the fact he takes contested marks is another plus, especially with him and Hogan in years to come being two headaches for defences. Speaks with the right attitude and seems like he has his head screwed on well. Hoping he has the desire to succeed and we are there with the forward structure being set up for a long period. Welcome aboard the Dee train Sam

Often Peel and East Perth have 13 or 14 AFL listed players running around in their line ups. And with Port and Adelaide now having stand alones sides I dare say they would often have around 10 to 12 players in their sides. Overall a lot of AFL listed players playing regularly at VFL, WAFL & SANFL level are either young and developing or just depth and you can see the young developers may have great skills an smarts they can get crunched by the bigger bodies whilst the with the AFL depth list cloggers their skills aren't great they get by on their superior fitness. The biggest upside on Oliver for me is yes he looks great on video against kids and he has done well at VFL level, What I like more than anything is the change in body shape over the season and the condition he turned up to the combine in. Speaks volumes of determination and the right attitude. That is in a player and very hard to teach Welcome to the club Oli

He was very good in the games I saw him this season and was exceptional in last weeks WAFL grand final. He is not however a walk up start to our team and would be just a depth player. One of many players who are in between levels eg VFL/SANFL/WAFL & AFL

So I guess Zaharakis is a no as well

BS Fyfe will never leave WA

Mids Mids and more mids, when we struggled this season it was when several of the not up to it players from 2012-13 were getting games again. For the right price I don't mind getting somebody like Melksham in And I am fairly confident the Bombers players will get very limited suspensions from the Wada and pretty sure anything will be backdated. Thier club may well be belted but I think the players will fair okay

3 out of those 5 would improve us nicely

Pedersen whilst not a B grader does fill this role well and has been missed he would have been very handy giving Gawn a chop out as he tired during games. Pedersen is only a temporary fix until a better option comes along I think we have other priorities as you say and the good ball deliverers off the backline are a must If we half our turnovers that will immediately equate to more wins

Hrovat is not a big mid nor does he have fantastic outside run which we need Dont rate Grimley as any better than what we already have, in fact think Pedersen is far better as a Ruck/Forward type Toumpas straight swap for Lynch aint a hope of that happening Suckling when he moves from Hawks will not be anything special without the guns around him, think along the lines of the Malceski scenario

Wouldn't go anywhere near Lycett, he is playing shocking footy in the WAFL and is very slow Also has off field issues which make him a no go was sent off for a few weeks for a "religous retreat" FMD as if anyone is buying that one

I really like Myers and think he would be good for our list and the strong midfield we are trying to build long term. The bigger bodied sides and midfields stand up in September when it matters. As others have said his injury history is a concern Zaharakis would be fantastic with his run and carry and a big improve for our midfield Carlisle I really rate as a CHB Those three are good targets at the right price and dependent on the WADA outcome (Obvioulsy Zaharakis is excluded from this)

Shuey, Gaff, Priddis, Lecras, Wellingham, Selwood, Yeo, Masten, Sheed, Hutchings and Rosa is a pretty decent midfield with good depth in anybodies language. You can tag one or two but when little work gets put into the Masten's and Gaff's because of this Masten accumulates as a conduit and Gaff has the ability to really hurt you. Hawks are devastating because of their versatility and ability to move different combinations into and out of the centre clearances and stoppages at any time during matches Lewis, Hodge, Mitchell, Rioli, Roughead, Burgoyne, Hill, Smith and Shiels. It is soemthing Simpson has taken from his time at the Hawks and developed to good effect and their boys at East Perth play the same way so they step right in if called up. Natanui is a long way from elite doesn't have endurance to take him around the ground to take marks, find space and he doesn't have the footy nous or smarts to find space. He is a good player but certainly not worthy of all the hype or high price tag. He is a freakish athlete who can fill a highlight reel but elite IMO of the ruckman in the AFL he is a fair way behind Goldstein, Mummy, Jacobs, Lobbe and Sandilands and probably on par with Martin. As far as young ruckman go Grundy has a lot more upside than Natanui

The AFL gives out PP'S in case you missed that bit

I know it is difficult to get it through your head and it has been for the last 3 seasons but we will not be getting a PP FCS what is so difficult about this for you to register

Could be but Garlett's attitude doesn't affect his training and getting his body prepared

Gifted but bad attitude

Injuries are always a possibility for every player but sometimes you need to take a gamble and if that means a 10 year contract so be it get it done Generational player and club changer if the gamble pays off

Don't worry about Freo declining after Pav and Sandi, they are a very professional club and I have seen there WAFL aligned side a few times this season and they have soem good kids coming through and also Nat Fyfe is only just beining his climb as an out and out Superstar. They will always be an attractive proposition to any WA boy wishing to return. As far as I am aware Jesse's parents have moved from Perth to the South West. All we need to worry about is to keep improving, strengthen the bond with the new brigade of Hogan, Brayshaw, Salem, Petracca, Macca, Kemp and others coming through and balance it out with an attractive deal which will keep Hoges with us. One of teh old club stalwarts like Todd Viney could also help out by setting Hoges up with one of their daughters to strengthen his ties to Victoria

But everybody thought it was a great idea at play-lunch