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Good luck to Dec tomorrow for Dec great thrill for Drunkn and all the family

Ffs do you need him to tell you we're underdone Off season Ops which along with the new AFLPA Christmas break rule hampered continuity for training Impacting our fitness levels across almost half the list Poor start to the season has effected any semblance of confidence players may have had Or would you prefer he wrote a fairytale and told you it was all because a) we still have players on our list who were part of 186 b) a curse from 1965 when we sacked Norm Smith

It's easy to top up when you've got a nucleus. We'll see how good Gragam Wright is building from scratch, bringing O'meara, Mitchell and others in will keep them in finals contention nothing else

Well if it's not Pert it must be the curse. ???? You know several Demonlanders need someone to blame

Hawks built their nucleus for their flags by absolutely nailing 2 drafts and then just topped up from 2010 onwards when the expansion clubs came in 2001 - Hodge, Mitchell, Ladson, Brown 2004 - Roughie, Franklin, Lewis, Taylor Cats did the same in 2 drafts 1999 - Corey, Chapman, Ling Enright 2001 - Bartel, Kelly, Stevie J, Ablett,

Yeah those risks they took on Dayle Garlett second time around, Beau Muston after his car crash really worked out. Ffs they've picked up plenty of duds along the way as have other clubs. We're not exclusive here

Curses are for people looking for excuses, and dare I say also people who blame umpires for losses and Mission for every game day injury The reasons are nothing to do with any curses but a number of factors many self inflicted others just poor timing or decisions Poor zone been covered by others but we didn't exactly have a conveyor belt of recruits coming through in the 70s Poor culture the old boys club off field who didn't move with the times in the changing game of the 70/80s Bottoming out when TV was about to have a massive influence The above set the tone for missing a generation of new supporters in the 70s and 80s Timing 1988 & 2000 running into 2 absolute juggernauts in the GF, Hawks of 88 were some side and we overachieved getting there. 2000 bit like 1987 put a strong run together in the backend of the year only to run into a dominant side set on redemption having fallen foul to complacency to the Blues in 99. They were never slipping up here Poor drafting - the drafting overall in the early noughties had a big effect which we are still recovering from with Jones a lone warrior survivor from that period. From 2012 onwards we are on par with most clubs with hits and misses each year but the Strauss, Maric, Blease draft was a killer. Molan was just an unforseen bust and our timing of getting it wrong with the expansion sides coming in was another blow Poor decisions with Olympic park when first offered is another in the list from previous boards which impacted our club greatly

Coniglio will be 1 of these 3 next season A. Giant B. Docker C. Blue

I hear you wouldn't like to trade him but Cerra is a good kid and Langdon is developing his disposal which along with his running power will push his price up

In the off season I made comment of how I liked the way Carlton had built their list after getting all their KPTs in and had/would focus towards mids in their trades and selections from here. I was shot down by a few Deelanders who told me Carlton's list was rubbish and they'd be no good once Kruezar, Simpson and Murphy were gone. I am not all doom and gloom as others seem to be you don't become rubbish overnight and fitness, confidence a few fresh injections and a slight change in game plan will right the ship not saying we'll do a 07 Cats or 17 Tigers but we will learn from this. Nothing comes without hard work and the % we are off in fitness preparation with Oliver, Viney, Tmac, AVB, May, Jetta, Lever, Melksham is huge with our game plan. The ripple effect has impacted others on the list in terms of confidence and whilst we don't have much speed it looks a lot worse when we turining it over and lacking the ability to currently run 2 ways

you need to give up following the MFC it's bad for your judgment and health. Your posts over the 6 weeks of the season show that. Things are never as bad as they seem and they are never as good as they seem

For once and for all to those whinging about Hogan being traded, forget about it he had checked out and wanted out. You can't have players who don't want to be there. And if any moron brings up Tim Kelly don't he hadn't checked out it was his manager looking for a better deal than the first two years as a draftee

Good post Wayne there were positives tonight Effort Players obviously being aware not to rush in to contested possession on mass and get burnt on the outside for the first 3 quarters Defending deeper and not giving easy goals away out the back Forward structure needs a lot of work and we're still a long way off but a couple of things to like

He didn't need to kick much tonight, he beat his direct opponent for the night. If you're judging votes on kicks why have you given Brayshaw a vote, one of our worst turnover offenders by foot tonight

why do you even bother feeding the troll. Struggling to understand how many didn't note his absence for most of 2018

Conference is shot, treat with care FD the kid will come good

The positive tonight was the defence, effort was better but midfield panicked under perceived pressure and fumbled 6. Gawn 5. Hore 4. Tmac 3. Hibberd 2. Stretch 1. Melksham

Not to mention the 10goal loss we may have tomorrow will see the AFL removing us from the Anzac eve fixture, which was another the sky is falling gem

B. Hore TMac Hibberd HB. Hunt Frost Salem C. Stretch Viney Fritsch HF. Melk Weid Trac F. Garlett T.Smith Lockhart R. Gawn, Brayshaw, Oliver I/C. Jones, ANB, JWagner, Harmes We need as many runners as possible across all lines against the Tigers. They will do the same as the Saints try and run us off our feet. Can't play the long bombs against them, but also need to get it in quick in a similar vain to how Port played on Good Friday against the Eagles Two way running and being on the back shoulder of your direct opponent are non negotiables

Carlton are chasing Coniglio hard and have been for a while Zak Jones moving up the pecking order at Sydney this year may push his price up if he shines. His hard run and leg speed are what we need through the middle. Not sold on his decision making and disposal

Whoever we target it's time to start targeting them before the price shoots up. May may be great for us but like Lever came at a heavy cost if they work out great. I like the deals Carlton have done to get Plowman and Marchbank in. I like both players. Having said that both Hibberd and Melksham were good deals which I think the club won

Good points RN and if we win the clearances and deliver the ball inside 50 well enough for Pruess to smash packs or to negate his direct opponent peeling off on Weid/Tmac oppositions will have to worry more about him

My only reservations RN on him are his opponent running off him on the bigger ground. There were times tonight when his lack of mobility was very noticeable. But he was important tonight.

6. Gawn 5. Oliver 4.Jones 3. Trac 2. Salem 1.Hunt Same good momentum breaers in the game winning contests and taking intercept marks from Viney, Hore and Fritter

Yes Rjay that's correct I meant we are taking time to put the pieces together weve got our bulls now the polish