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He had a good year last year and was looked to as one of our best defenders. People on here are quick to forget that. Freak. you get shot down cause your mouth spews forth vomit.

Back on topic. I wouldn't do the original trade suggested. Simply because we wouldn't be gaining an extra pick. Just upgrading 17 - 6. I think people would look more at: Bruce, Green to Carlton for pick 6. Even that sounds like a loss to melbourne. Personally I would look at Green, Jamar for pick 6.

Ha! that was a good read. I dont think alot of posters quite got the joke. which makes it even better in my eyes!

Ha! What a joke! How many colours do they want? "The colours became very simple -- we needed a blue to pick up on the sky of the city. "We needed white to represent our sand and gold of course for the sun." Okay, so where does the red fit in? Posted by: P. D. Johnson of Gold Coast 3:27pm Saturday The 'mascot' (BTW, most fans call him Gaylord, not Gazza) Ha! cant belive they gave the Gold Coast a team over Tasmania. Fremantle must be having celebrations for no longer being the afl biggest joke team.

Yeah P.J has played well for the Zebras. As has Simon Godfrey, Steven Armstrong, Chris Lamb, Etc, Etc. I have seen glimpses of P.j playing well in the forward line but never for a whole match or over a couple of weeks. I always get excited at the start of the match seeing him up there. And as soon as the ball is bounce he runs up to the middle or wing, leaving Maric or Wonna there. I would love for him to be played as a full forward for a whole match. It looks like an obvious decision to me. Obviously the coaches know otherwise.

All based on rumours so far, but its pretty clear that Carlton are on the hunt for an out of contract player, so you would think that they would have enough money to spare. Couldn't be much more than we would offer though. You would think that Robbie would want to be number 1 ruckman, he is sure to get that for a long time at the demons. Still think we will get him easily.

Un-needed player. Even if he stays on the list, I doubt he would get a game next year. Should just pay out his contract and send him on his way. I doubt anyone would pick him up in the PSD.

Agree 100% Rhino. Posters on here seem to be wearing thier rose coloured glasses when it comes to our ruck. Jamar, while being decent in the ruck, is rubbish around the ground and just shows how bad we have it when he is considered number 1. He takes 1 or 2 decent marks a game and people think he is coming along nicely. Rubbish. PJ, while being a fave of mine. Has not cemented a position on the ground anywhere. To me he looks lost when playing up forward. He has the size and the pace to be a great full forward, but even when we are crying out for one he can't quite cut it. His rucking is average, but acceptable for a 2nd choice. Personally, If we get R.Warnock, I would trade Jamar. I think we could get a late 3rd round pick for him. That makes Warnock 1 and P.J 2nd ruck. If one gets injured then we can either bring in Meeson. or Elevate Spencer. I know that people are going to say Meeson is [censored]. but If you really think we are going to finish above bottom 4 next year then you are dreaming. Therfore we could give him a go before Delisting. Its a chance I would be willing to make. Just out of intrest, I read somewhere that Spencer wants to go home? I dont know where his home is or if this is true at all but if anyone could give some info.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/matt...0121086124.html Link to the Age if anyones keen. 'While he confirmed he would continue to live in Queensland, Matthews said he was unsure where the next step in his career would take him.' 'Once voted the best Australian rules player of the 20th century, Matthews has been a larger-than-life figure in AFL in Brisbane, with his iconic stature helping to establish the game in the growing South-East Queensland market.' After reading these sentences does anyone else think that maybe Leigh might be linked to the new Gold Coast team?

While your view is a bit extreme, I do agree to a point. Unfortunatly we dont have much of value to trade. Brad Green and Cam Bruce would be our only good value. Everything else we would probably lose out on.

You got a good chuckle out of me there!

I'd take that.

Totally agree. This really annoyed me. Two years before this Neale had all the boys bulking up to compete with Brisbanes game plan and then turns around and changes it all. Was definatley a bad idea.

If we could get a top 20 pick for Green we should take it. It would be pretty heart breaking for me. but i think it would better for both parties. As much as I usually agree with you Rhino, i disagree this time. I think some clubs would be certainly entertaining the idea of offering a top 20 pick for him. Especially with the year he has been having. We really need to have a decent crack at this rebuild. Otherwise we will end up like Richmond. However. I belive Brad will re-sign a new 3 year deal soon.

I thought Sylvia was really good. Made a couple of shocking mistakes. but was a good target when up forward. seemed to really want the ball today. I cringed everytime Jamar got the ball early, his disposal is simply terrible. always going for that quick handpass out the back is getting totally predictable. To his credit he bounced back in the third and forth and took some really good strong grabs up front. Can someone tell me why we gave away so many free's at the centre bounce?

I see your point Nudge. Play him one on one in the goal square and his take off speed will let him beat his opponenant to the ball. Its a good thing in theory, but if that plan actually worked we would be able to do it with Davey to much better effect. He isn't big enough yet.

Frawley has put on 8kg since coming to the club. And will gain a lot more by the start of next year. How long did it take Warnock to make it to this level? Cant believe some people on here are asking for him to be traded around. What do you think we would get for him at the moment? I would say a late 2nd rounder at best.

think he was saying crap, as in, you just jinxed him.

The Fixture is bad at the moment, but at the end of the year it will be the same as any normal year. This year we will play 7 teams twice and the rest once. just like the old fixture. If we have played all the tough teams twice already, then we will have an easier run home. Carlton haven't played the tough teams twice, so its more likely they will have a harder run home. The fixture will never be perfectly even until we play all teams twice. which I personally cant see happening with 16 teams in the comp. The biggest injustice we should be looking at has been stated by calabreseboy. Collingwood get the blockbusters and the friday night games because they get the biggest crowds. As a result they get the most exposure and recruit fans alot easier than we do because we get little media exposure. The big clubs get bigger and the small clubs get smaller. I wonder why we have the smallest Aus Kick recruitment? is it because we ALWAYS play on a sunday when kids are off playing sports and doing things with there familys?

Once again i agree with you Rhino. I was sad when we traded him for pick 14. was my fave player and loved watching him play. But was happy when we picked up Grimes. Good decission in the end. Ive been a fan of Cj. Had that awesome pre-season a couple of years ago. But failed to deliver. I dont think he is cut out to be a midfielder for a long time, but in my eyes we need a good running hbf. Hopefully he can back up his great game last week.

Completley agree with everything you have said in this topic Rhino. Has shown nothing this year, shouldn't get a game. Give him a coulple in next years pre-season matches. People have to realise that he has been injured alot at Adeliade. Our Ruck future will be decided at trading/drafting time this year. Personally im much more interested in the development of Spencer. Anyone have any info?

I haven't seen any of them. Doesnt Rich have question marks over his speed? My choice will have to wait untill the carnival and the big decider - Robbie Warnock. If we get him, i would pick Watts/Rich. All depends where we finish too.

Gold FitZ! complete Gold! you should make that your avatar!

I actually like the look of Mundy, correct me if im wrong but he plays like Rivers? The Freo supporters like him alot. He wants to leave apparently, might be able to pick him up in the PSD?

Trade Garland and Warnock? I hope your joking. To start with there trade value wouldn't be nearly the same as there value in our team.