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the whole Dermie discussion is pretty far fetched IMO, so i can see why C&B is shrugging it off. Firstly, for it to work Dermie would have to have some sort of reason to want to be Jack Watt's mentor and IMO it would need to be more than just cash (which Im guessing he has enough of to keep him happy). For dermie to really be the mentor that people are talking about he'd need to spend alot of time with Watts, and would need to persist with him for a couple of years id say. Cant see why Dermie would bother with all that effort? He'd be asked about the process and JW's progress on every pannel that he sat on in the various TV programs, and what if Watts showed no improvement? Plus Dermie being a natural footballer doesnt equate to him being able to teach it to others Secondly, what kind of a slap in the face would it be to the current coaching group & support staff at the club? It would be an admission that our own coaching staff arent good enough to extract the talent from a number #1 draft pick? Thirdly, if Watts needed such a level of coaching/mentoring where the team of coaches, support staff and past players are not enough then he either doesnt have the talent we think he does, or he doesnt give a crap about footy. I think the club would be better served getting the Ox, Neita or another one of our great forwards to "mentor" him, if infact it is even requried.

i actually think there is a fare chance that we can keep him, regardless of how long he deffers his signature. My reasons are as follows; Why would GWS want to pay anywhere near the reported sums of cash for a #1 draft pick with 2 years only in the system? Especially if he is yet to sign with them..... they would be paying a massive price for a boke who will have played ~1.5 seasons. Seeing as they are about to get access to a whole range of top picks sureley they'd be betetr served paying for older, more mature, big name players? If it wasnt for Eddie's radio stunt would anyone actually have any good reasons why a new club would want to add another young player to what will be a very young list? I doubt his name woudl have come up this early in teh season if it wasnt for speculation casued by the outrageous comments of Eddie??

i forgive him in a heartbeat. I honestlty dont think that getting blind drunk is an unforgivable act. He didnt break the law or do anything sus. Of course its unacceptable for an AFL player to get smashed after a game, but not unforgivable IMO

disagree Stripping him of the VC punishes Beamer for his actions. The guy is a life long Dee's man so no doubt being a VC of the club would have been a big deal to him. Rubbing him out for a few weeks would punish him, but also the team. Why punish the rest of the team for something Beamer did alone? At the end of the day though, our next two games are winable, so no doutb the club didnt want to punish themselves by handing out a suspension to one of our key players....

biggest over-statement ever! He hasnt even played a senior home and away game, so im at a loss at how he can possibly be considered an elite player?!

i think the margin this weekend will be 100 points less than the record vrs the hawks....

great post Thommo As i said earlier, its convenient to use his basketball history as an excuse for where he is now, but when we drafted him im sure BP & the FD would have saw it as an upside to his footy skills (additional agility & evasiveness skills), not a hindrance which people now conveniently say that it is

not great luck, but to be honest having him (& jordie) out gives Tappy & Gys more oppertunities for good match time.

Yes he played basketball, but i bet when we drafted him we thought this would equate to great agility, not an excuse for his footballing deficiencies.

Dawes was drafted with pick 28, so the expectations were not as high

great post. IMO there are a few different schools of thought on JW; - He's a work in progress, but will be an absolute star in a few year once he has grown and gains confidence - He's not the power forward we thought we were getting by using the #1 pick for him, but he'll be very good in a few years - He's no good currently and even in time he wont be a power forward becasue he lacks the desire for the contest, no we wasted a number 1 pick on the type of player you can get later in teh draft. IMO we as members/supporters were hoping for a once in a generation power forward when we used the #1 selection on a tall. The fact that he quite obviously isnt showing comprable form to the players hannibal listed above at the same ages casues us all to question wheather he'll ever get there. at the end of the day, if we had used a 2nd round pick on him we wouldnt be scrutinising his every move. Lucas Cook is lucky in that respect - IMO every time he does anything of note it will almost be like a bonus, where as with Watts, everytime he does somthing great we say "so he should, we used a #1 draft pick on this kid!"

ladder position doesnt mean alot for a few more weeks yet. (as i keep telling the Eagles supporters who were over the moon after 2 rounds!) would/will be nice to sit in the 8 either way though

haha The other one that pisses me off is the over use of the word Elite. I hear the word Elite used so often by the football media these days that it its almost like they have forgotten about every other adjective or adverb! player X has Y clearances per game, which puts him into the elite catogory for clearances Player Y has elite kicking skills player Z's running ability is elite IMO the word Elite should be reserved to those who are in the top echelon of all aspects of the game (abletts, Judds etc). /rant

he's a gun and with guys like Davey & Aussie around i hope the club is able to get the best out of him on the field

i expect Beamer to thrive on field with his own performance and his leadership a bit like when Benny Cousins lost the eagles captaincy after runnign away from a booze bus and swimming across the swan river!!

davey should continue to play in the guts. If he is given a hard tag we can look to move him into the foward 50, but making him the sub or trading is way out of line!

pointless discussion really. What is done is done!

Gotzy, we're all just bitter that we've used our #1 picks on a dud (watts) and a traitor (scully) Just kidding. I tend to sit on the fence with Watts. I'm happy to wait for him to show his true worth, im sure he'll be damn handy eventually. However, i also can sympahize with those who are impatient due to him being a #1 pick in his 3rd year and not showing a great deal. Moral of the story - complaining about the bloeks performaces online wont change a thing!

haha great point

at the end of the day its his word against the bloke who called into the radio. He may well have [censored] on the bar, he might not remember alot from last night! I think the penalty is fair. Glad he's still available for selection though. I'm sure being stripped of the VC will only spur him on to trying to make amends on the field. watch out Suns!!!

is this the ruling, or did you just post it in a very "matter of fact" manner?

prefer previous years, the colours and quality are lacking IMO but at the end of the day it doesnt phase me got my new gurnsey and reckon it looks more maroon than the one the lads wear on game day (maybe its the TV contrast?), but again im not overly fussed

Great OP

the yay to win games of footy is to pick your best team on form / team balance out Watts or Dunn in Newton

haha YES! honestly though, He's stepped over the line this time, but atleast he hasnt gone on a cocane bender, bashed someone, or slept with a 16 year old etc etc.