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Don't we have our own Fyffe already and who has still got huge upside? IMO we have a need for more speed to break lines like Bulldogs and Saints.

All clubs get injuries so not an excuse.

Disagree. Viney 6 kicks, Jones 8 kicks. Weiderman 3 kicks. Wasnt just inexperience.

Vincent Lombardi "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing". You just have to find away . The other option is irelevant fluff that I'm sick of hearing.

Hunt and Kent ok

We have been led to believe we aren't there anymore. Next week tells the story.

We find out if Goody and his men are mentally tough enough and have right skill set next week. There are no excuses,we can't afford to be 2-3.IMO we must win next week and we need to win big to restore some faith to the membership who by their numbers have shown their support. Selection and performance completely unacceptable two weeks in a row. Jackson needs an explanation and commitment to fix. Goody now batting at 50% and that doesn't get you to finals.

So disappointed with midfield, particularly as our team leaders are there.

Lost at selection 2 weeks in a row. Weiderman has cost us twice. Forward coach under extreme pressure . Simply ridiculous selection. Disgraceful. Weiderman is gentle. Hannan no where near it. I worry about Jones and Viney and whilst the forwards were flogged our on ballers were woeful and couldn't get it to them. Midfield except Oliver slow, very slow and gone backwards. B grade midfield. They will drop Tyson but it was Jones and Viney who were the problem.

10 pages. Impressive

To be honest I hoped we would win but had doubts against a serious contender at Etihad. So on reflection, we've had a lot worse defeats than this. What did they beat us by last year? The impact of Max going off was significant? We were nowhere near full strength ( No Brayshaw at his best, No Lewis, No Hogan, No Hibberd ). Something seems amiss with Viney, could he be carrying a niggler? We kicked very poorly and can play way better. Sorry for all the excuses, but even with the above, we arguably could/should have won this. The conclusion I draw is that when we really get our sh.t together, with a strong side in, I think things are going to be very good indeed

Brayshaw for Harmes, Bugg for Hannan, Frost for either Weideman or Smith, Pencil for Max.

Really like the way Goody handles himself in Media interviews. Thought the latest one on the MFC site was very composed, despite a couple of moronic questions. Happy the footy is in his hands,

Good job boys.

Works for the MRP when walking too.

Lets see what happens to the next open hand to the face. Two weeks for that incident, which was clearly miked, seems grossly unjust to me. MRP looks to have defined what an open hand to the face is worth. Thank god he didn't punch him.

6 Salem 5 Garlett 4 Watts 3 Tyson 2 Oliver 1 Stretch

Thought he must have been hit by a bus. Kid Cartable after the way his legs folded up after that tap. Complete stooging act to milk a free.

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We can disagree where his playing days are at as its not clear. 30+, has arguably been short-changed financially (played if you like), now sees colossal dollars being thrown about and says 'hang on'. Has given them great service and is deserving of a little better.

Have no idea what or how Hawthorn were attempting to resolve their issues, but their un Hawthorn like handling of incoming player salaries has got the treatment from the screwees. Bloody great , been sickened for years by the family club crap that they have pedalled. If Jordan Lewis wants to come to us , that's terrific as her has a lot of experience to offer. But it did seem apparent to me in the finals that he was slowing up, his age is against him and I don't think he equates to a second rounder. Also, after being as unthinking as this to its champions, I don't think it would be particularly smart to try and engage in sharp practice and further player aggravation, by not helping Lewis get to his destination. I mean they made the Mitchell thing work painlessly for him, doesn't Lewis deserve the same respect? 4 th Rounder would at least claw back a bit of respect for them I would suggest notwithstanding what cards they hold.

Would be horrified. Refer Mitchell deal.

Massive overs. Refer Mitchell deal.

Mitchell won the best and fairest was captain and went to Eagles for essentially pick 88. Lewis was second in the best and fairest and is no better player than Mitchell. So anything less than 80 for Lewis would be a complete scam. Our people aren't silly.

At what cost? Where does he play? Whose spot does he take? Are Hawthorn keeping a straight with this? Re engineering their list with sweeping changes of old legs, with A grade youngsters , freed up cap space and other clubs falling for it. As for potentially wasting a second rounder for a year to year proposition, just don't think it will happen. Hope not anyhow.