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But did he not have someone behind him? I don't recall him looking back. Great still shot by DeeZephr - particuallry the umpire indicating play on (which must have been almost straight away). But lets assume he had no one to kick to. As beezlebub says then it is on his team mates. At least, one but ideally more, of his team mates should have been busting a gut to provide a short option. Terribel that they weren't and cost us the game.

Agree. Made stranger/worse by his elite basketball background. Basketball 101 is managing the clock and preserving a lead at the death. And rule number 1 is not giving the ball back to the opposition. If you have it they can't score And you have achieve that by holding it as long as you can yourself before making a pass to team mate who repeats. You don't even take an open shot if it involves giving the ball back with time for the opposition to score and win or draw (which at the elite level can occur even if say 4 points down with only 10 seconds left - a quick score and a turnover under the basket and you can still draw or even win if one play is a 3 pointer). Which is what jeffy did. Trac would have run that scenario a million times in his basketball training.

The bolded bits are true. And after we did get get in we made a number of mistakes - jeffy should have looked for a pass rather than a shot on goal - even if it meant going backwards, A pass to someone on 50 would have allowed us to eat up 30 seconds. Even if he couldn't find someone another ball up would have been likely given the congestion. Once he elected to go for goal he only had one option - kick the goal. Then from the kick nu why did we not flood back and get numbers clogging up their 50? And why di Vince spilke the ball away. Given we didn't flood back how did we allow them to transfer it up the corridor. Surely we had to be man on man. Then Frost gets - as RJAY 9i think) - so rightly says, gets caught in no mans land and allows the tic tac. And no one in the hole in front of Touey? Beggars belief. But all that said i disagree with the unbolded bits. Trac simply had to hold onto the ball as long as possible (the umpire had not called play on when he kicked it) and then look for a short target. Surely at least one would have been possible - and if not that is another failing. It was only 90 seconds to go. Even one chip kick then the long bomb to to the boundary would have eaten 20 seconds away. Three chip kicks and the long bomb would have iced the game. Trac looked as if he though t we needed to score not them.

This rubbish infuriates me. I read most stuff on DL and i reckon there has been maybe one post suggest he MIGHT make AA. One. It goes without saying i'm a huge Omac fan - but even i have never suggested he would be AA - or even a star for that matter. Omac was beaten tonight. By a player in rare form who is arguably the second best one on one forward in the the AFL. A player who is in his prime and is probably 5kgs heavier and much stronger. It happens. He has just played his 50th game of AFL football. He has more composure than almost all in our team. In th efrantic last 90 seconds he takes a key contested mark and pin points a 40 metre kick to our number 2 draft pick. Who proceeds to bomb it long rather than go back and ice the game. OMac will be mainstay of our defence for another 10 years. I hope you (and STMJ) enjoy the journey

You just made my [censored] list. Ignore for you.

Case in point.

You have had an extraordinary number of posts since you started posting on DL. Your posting history is almost a perfect analogy for our inside 50's. Lots and lots of them but far too many fail to hit their target.

I think we are a much better side than the Cats and think we are a huge chance, in large part because the ground suits us. Let's hope the umpires don't play a role in this game.

Hannan out with a knee. Apparently.

Hypothetically if it is two weeks then back for the Suns game. Which you'd reckon they would not play him in if not 100% cherry ripe. Back the following week against the Swans.

Not spoiling for a fight but the fact they are not as strong as they have been in the past few years does nothing to argue against the point they are a 5-6 goal better side at home than away. In fact the quote above strengthens the contention they are better at home. Despite being poor they have only lost there once this season (and were leading by 4 goals at 3 q time in that game) We maybe in a better position this year than previous years to win kardinia park because they have dropped off and we have got better but that is a completely different argument/discussion. Again there is no question they are a better side at home and are therefore more likely to win games there than away from home. Which is why, despite being below us on the ladder and us being in better form, they are overwhelming favourites with the bookies at $1.58 to win the game.

Again, this may be true but you rubbished the idea they were a 5-6 goal side at home. Not sure why. But i agree we have a shot.

Great win. Gawny's break out game - killed them in the second half. It also wrecked the Cory Enright 300 game celebration which was a nice bonus

That may be so but they are unquestionably a better side at their home ground. Not sure about 5-6 golas better (that's alot) but their record is phenomenal down there and a huge leg up for them in terms of making finals. It should be noted that their record is helped by the fact that in recent times often play lower ranked teams there. Still this all time record is imposing (i love the games total -an omen?): P W D L GF-BF For GA-BA Agn % Win% Geelong 666 443 5 218 9222.8790 64122 7600.7550 53150 120.64 66.89 In the last few years their win % is even more impressive. They have won 21 of the last 24 games they have played at their home ground. Interestingly Swans have won all 3 of those games which i think augurs well for us as i suspect a big factor is the tight ground suits the swans highly contested game and therefore also suits us. And there is n doubt now that we do better on narrower grounds so that is also in our favour.

Well we can develop players - without the aid of drugs at that

Sucked in? Surely you jest. They would have loved having hawkins play 100 metres from goal just as they were happy to have schache do the same last sat. If lever had done his part and players like hibberd theirs (eg help lever out in the air) we would have won.

Of course you can. Impossible to draw the conclusion that the Darwin game is the cause of the injuries to Viney and Hibberd.

At first I was afraid, I was petrified Kept thinking I could never live without Viney, Lever and Hibberd in our side But then I spent so many nights thinking how the dees have done me wrong And I grew strong And I learned how to get along And so when you're back You can thank Omac For making the finals and removing that sad look upon your face Because finishing 9th would have been such bad disgrace Did you think the dees would lay down and die? Oh no, not I, we will survive Hey, hey

Sorry i was unclear. I mean the Spotswood, Footscray, Seddon, Monnee Ponds (at a pinch), Kensington sort of areas. Preferably near a trains station

A perennial - and possibly difficult to answer - question i guess but i'll ask anyway. What are the best pubs to watch the game on the west(ish) side of the city? I don't like the options in the city and not a fan of the Sporting Globe to be hones (any of them). I know it is on FTA but keen to watch with a mate at a venue with some atmosphere.

I reckon he will get another rookie year. Big key defenders who can mark and kick ok don't grow on trees.

How about: Omac - another positive contribution (by the by: he played on Cordy and Schache at different times right throughout the game. I reckon it was probably a 40-60 split, with Cordy being the 40. Omac wasn't moved off Schache as such and played on him at times in the 3rd and 4th qs, but in any case i don't think was particularly influential given where he got the ball).

Took a while to jerry. I thought you were referring to the Freddie Cook reference.

Well yes actually. i'm sure a team has played the last round then the first week of finals

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